Regardless of any issues one may have with AC Transit’s current BRT proposal, this is just bad planning. This initiative would mean that anytime the City wanted to convert lanes to transit-only lanes, the decision would have to be made by the Berkeley electorate. Even if the dedicated bus lane only extended one block into Berkeley from Oakland or another neighboring city, Berkeley residents would have the final say. Projects could be held up for months or even years if an election wasn’t approaching (I don’t see the city holding special elections for this issue).
Finally, restricting high-rise development to Broadway goes against two immutable forces: the market and the earth.
There are two things to note about the inclusion of the Wayans Brothers prominence in the Chronicle story about the response to RFQ of the Oakland Army Base. The first is that it is old news, reported—although prematurely at the time—eight months ago in the Chronicle. The second is that it is told entirely from the point of view of the Wayans Brothers, making it appear as if this is another “Oakland screwed up a development deal” thing.”
Allen-Taylor also points out how pathetic it is that the Express’s primary source of news now appears to be the SF Chronicle, which means that they’re frequently wrong (not that they need any help in that area).

not that this is a reason but doesn’t a huge chunk, if not all of chinatown fall inside of D2 not d3. and for obvious reason i am guessing all of chinatown falls within d2, thus nancy’s indifference is for once to be expected
Chinatown is in District 2, but the meeting is about the zoning proposal for the whole CBD. It will be the only public input meeting on the zoning update to have been held inside the CBD.
Thanks for the shout-out! Oakland has wonderful geology; I just wish I could post about it more nearly every day. I think it’s time for me to start an Oakland blogroll on the Oakland Geology blog.
V smoothe, true but i thought the purpose of this meeting was just to get input from the residents of chinatown (who just like about all others, but more noticeably so) have been missing in these meetings. from what i understood the purpose of tomorrow’s mtg is to cover ground that has already been covered at the over meetings for the express purpose of soliciting input from a select population.
clearly anyone with half a brain can see the flaw in their plan. so the commission talks to chinatown to discover that they want a self-contained neighborhood. others living in the downtown area might find this type of proposal counterproductive. but if you let said element into the meeting, they might speak over the chinatown voice. and chinatown, once again, goes unheard.
it was a half baked idea. they should have done been doing this and all meetings inside the core and doing a better job of announcing them. but what the heck do i know i am only a citizen who has to scour the internet to find news that my councilmember should be telling me.
ps: can you tell i am bit annoyed with the whole thing.
Note: someone should probably do some research but I think this meeting in Chinatown was planned before the ZUC told the planning committee to have a mtg within the CBD. Correct me if i am wrong but this mtg was scheduled as a response asked at the boathouse mtg.
looks like the planning peeps plan to use this as that CBD mtg and claim to have met their requirements. honestly for the most part I am not opposed to the development in the CBD. I would probably prefer varied heights and footprints across all zones. But more than anything I want construction.
I can envision an Oakland with a downtown arts center like the DTC in Denver. A couple of restaurants. A hotel or two for visiting artist. why do they perform in Oakland but sleep in SF?
Andrew –
You’re welcome! Thank you for writing the blog. I have to confess, as the daughter of a geologist, I endured to more than my fair share of enthusiastic lectures about rocks as a child, and of course I hated it and decided that the earth was unbelievably boring. As I get older, I find myself realizing that my parents were right about an awful lot of things after all, and geology is definitely one of them.
Around these parts, we spend a lot of time fighting about responsible land use – the costs of sprawl and the benefits of infill development, and the congestion, parking, and quality of life changes that may accompany it. I never spend any time thinking about land use choices in the hills, so your thoughts on the matter were really interesting to me.
Ralph –
You’re
probablyright. Chinatown has been shut out of the process, and they deserve their own forum to talk about it. I’m just so frustrated with this entire process and really resentful that the draft zoning chapter is coming back toCEDZUC next week and there has been no additional opportunity for input since the last meeting.edited a day later to correct some errors
For a pretty good multimedia viewing of the Mack event mentioned please visit:
http://www.bayareanewsgroup.com/multimedia/iba/2008/player/?f=0404mack
“On Monday, when the sun is hot, / I wonder to myself a lot: / `Now is it true, or is it not, / That what is which and which is what?’” – some smart person
That is a really nice video. Except maybe for the gratuitous close-up shot of teenage girl legs.
Thanks for the mention… I’ll hopefully have some updates soon on BRT, though I’m a bit distracted by state politics right now.
I too am annoyed by the repeated coverage of politicians who might run for higher offices… Jerry Brown might run for governor, Schwarzenegger might run for Senate. The fact that these stories are treated as big news repeatedly shows not only how understaffed mainstream media has become but also how short term the political memory of the public really is.
On a happier note, I too am loving Oakland Geology and was glad to stumble upon it via Brooklyn Avenue. It’s nice to read about the non-political side of Oakland sometimes.
those berkeleyans need to get a clue!
either rescind Measure G (90% ghg reduction) or don’t complain about being in the iraq war for oil for your way of life. don’t rain on the BRT parade… what happened to economic opportunity and decent and fast transportation for the lower classes??
The Berkeley fogies against BRT are Hating on Poor People and are too attached to their CARS. Every bus rider i’ve asked is highly in favor of bus-only lanes. Common theme: “it’s about time.”
It is really shocking how hypocritical Berkeley is being about BRT. Aren’t they a Transit-First City? This is exactly what Transit First means. I think we can expect opposition, but the lack of support from elected officials and the local media is very disappointing.
Well what do you expect? Show me a liberal, eco-conscious, transit friendly citizen. Then make them a homeowner and watch them drop all their principles in the interest of their equity. There are flyers up in cafes all over town that tell of the horrors of BRT. One of the things they complain about is the fact that BRT will change neighborhoods along telegraph. They don’t want the landscape to change from single-family detached homes. Guess what? Berkeley isn’t a college town any more. It’s a component of the Bay Area megalopolis.
That’s a broad stereotype. Only Berkeleyans seem opposed to BRT, not Oakland homeowners, so there’s more going on than that. I don’t think everyone drops their principles in favor of equity, but it’s certainly true that the anti-BRT crowd is made up of neighborhood preservationists, who probably realize that better public transit is makes the Smart Growth argument stronger. But the cool reception it receives from the city’s political leadership and local media is what’s so disappointing – there is simply no will in Berkeley to make tough choices, even if it’s something as straight-forward as fulfilling a Transit First pledge.
It probably is a little simplistic. Oaklanders are OK with it? STAND is OK with it?