Comments on: Save the planet without making yourself even mildly uncomfortable! http://www.abetteroakland.com/save-the-planet-without-making-yourself-even-mildly-uncomfortable/2007-12-06 The Continuing Story of a City Fri, 06 Jan 2012 21:06:35 +0000 hourly 1 By: Chris Kidd http://www.abetteroakland.com/save-the-planet-without-making-yourself-even-mildly-uncomfortable/2007-12-06#comment-2442 Chris Kidd Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:49:37 +0000 http://www.abetteroakland.com/save-the-planet-without-making-yourself-even-mildly-uncomfortable/2007-12-06#comment-2442 Well, I wouldn't consider "Sheppard's Canyon to Leona Heights" to be "the entire Oakland Hills", but I suppose that's more of a subjective judgement call than anything else. From the descriptions of the dimensions for San Antonio Forest, it also seems to suggest that the forest would have ended close to Highway 13, which would be about halfway up the hills by my estimation. Am I reading that wrong? This is, of course, me desperately splitting hairs. Give me a time and place and I'll show up with stocks and pies for throwing. I'm true to my word, if nothing else. But sweet research, Ethan. I am roundly impressed by you and the work you've done. And I still totally stand by my dissaproval of Eucalyptus and other damaging foreign species. Well, I wouldn’t consider “Sheppard’s Canyon to Leona Heights” to be “the entire Oakland Hills”, but I suppose that’s more of a subjective judgement call than anything else. From the descriptions of the dimensions for San Antonio Forest, it also seems to suggest that the forest would have ended close to Highway 13, which would be about halfway up the hills by my estimation. Am I reading that wrong?

This is, of course, me desperately splitting hairs. Give me a time and place and I’ll show up with stocks and pies for throwing. I’m true to my word, if nothing else. But sweet research, Ethan. I am roundly impressed by you and the work you’ve done.

And I still totally stand by my dissaproval of Eucalyptus and other damaging foreign species.

]]> By: Ethan http://www.abetteroakland.com/save-the-planet-without-making-yourself-even-mildly-uncomfortable/2007-12-06#comment-2439 Ethan Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:32:42 +0000 http://www.abetteroakland.com/save-the-planet-without-making-yourself-even-mildly-uncomfortable/2007-12-06#comment-2439 Chris: Here's the info on Oakland's historic redwood forests: 2 sites: http://pages.prodigy.net/stevenmix/laundry.htm#geology Check out the section entitled: "The Red Woods 1841": "ancient" forests extended down the bay side of the hills as far south as Leona quarry. Several lumber camps employed 400 men to "clear cut" ....they even pulled up the "massive stumps" and made them into shingles. And here is a picture of one of the saw mills: http://contentdm.califa.org/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/p3003coll31&CISOPTR=109&CISOBOX=1&REC=7 Part of the caption reads: "The picture was made long after the monumental San Antonio redwoods had been clear-cut to meet timber demands immediately following the Gold Rush. " Two historical sources, pictures and a personal descriptions given to the Oakland Museum from families that owned the land where the timber was harvested. The woods covered the bay side of the hills. Words that weave in and out between the sources: mammoth, ancient, mighty....and clear cut. Sorry to post the item here rather than the original discussion thread. SO many days have passed and I couldn't find the original thread. I think the search engine on this site only searches the stories written by V. and not the responders. Typed in redwoods and nothing came up. Chris: Here’s the info on Oakland’s historic redwood forests: 2 sites:
http://pages.prodigy.net/stevenmix/laundry.htm#geology

Check out the section entitled: “The Red Woods 1841″: “ancient” forests extended down the bay side of the hills as far south as Leona quarry. Several lumber camps employed 400 men to “clear cut” ….they even pulled up the “massive stumps” and made them into shingles.

And here is a picture of one of the saw mills:

http://contentdm.califa.org/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/p3003coll31&CISOPTR=109&CISOBOX=1&REC=7

Part of the caption reads: “The picture was made long after the monumental San Antonio redwoods had been clear-cut to meet timber demands immediately following the Gold Rush. ”

Two historical sources, pictures and a personal descriptions given to the Oakland Museum from families that owned the land where the timber was harvested. The woods covered the bay side of the hills. Words that weave in and out between the sources: mammoth, ancient, mighty….and clear cut.

Sorry to post the item here rather than the original discussion thread. SO many days have passed and I couldn’t find the original thread. I think the search engine on this site only searches the stories written by V. and not the responders.

Typed in redwoods and nothing came up.

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