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	<title>Comments on: Police parcel tax will be on the November ballot</title>
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		<title>By: Patrick McCullough</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/police-parcel-tax-will-be-on-the-november-ballot/2008-07-15#comment-2987</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick McCullough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m generally in favor of paying more taxes for increased police services. However, it&#039;s not a straight deal in Oakland, and I don&#039;t believe I&#039;ll get my money&#039;s worth when the go-between is not trustworthy. For every dollar taxed, you can bet that a good percentage will be squandered by some underhanded dealing by our less-than honorable city leaders.  

If you want to immediately be safer, and not see your money wasted by people who&#039;ve shown you they can&#039;t be trusted, invest in self-defense courses, tools, private security.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m generally in favor of paying more taxes for increased police services. However, it&#8217;s not a straight deal in Oakland, and I don&#8217;t believe I&#8217;ll get my money&#8217;s worth when the go-between is not trustworthy. For every dollar taxed, you can bet that a good percentage will be squandered by some underhanded dealing by our less-than honorable city leaders.  </p>
<p>If you want to immediately be safer, and not see your money wasted by people who&#8217;ve shown you they can&#8217;t be trusted, invest in self-defense courses, tools, private security.</p>
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		<title>By: len raphael</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/police-parcel-tax-will-be-on-the-november-ballot/2008-07-15#comment-2959</link>
		<dc:creator>len raphael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our mayor and city council owe deborah edgerly big time for giving them the opportunity to blame her for the city&#039;s deficit understatement. she deserves every nickle of that 200k+  pension and lifetime paid medical benefits. 

her budget &quot;errors&quot; gave our mayor and most of the council members the political cover they needed to repay their union supporters with pay increases to dig our hole deeper.

maybe that&#039;s why pat k. and jane b. were so complimentary of deborah&#039;s years of past service in their recent mass emails. deborah knew which side her bread was buttered.

-len raphael
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our mayor and city council owe deborah edgerly big time for giving them the opportunity to blame her for the city&#8217;s deficit understatement. she deserves every nickle of that 200k+  pension and lifetime paid medical benefits. </p>
<p>her budget &#8220;errors&#8221; gave our mayor and most of the council members the political cover they needed to repay their union supporters with pay increases to dig our hole deeper.</p>
<p>maybe that&#8217;s why pat k. and jane b. were so complimentary of deborah&#8217;s years of past service in their recent mass emails. deborah knew which side her bread was buttered.</p>
<p>-len raphael<br />
temescal</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick McCullough</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/police-parcel-tax-will-be-on-the-november-ballot/2008-07-15#comment-2956</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick McCullough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Campaigning for clean government and safe streets, I called for more cops, a wage freeze, top salary cuts, and audits to cut waste –  achievable without layoffs or service cuts. The “leaders” replied freezes and cuts would be too difficult to negotiate and granted raises, apparently believing it easier to lie to and manipulate the voters.

	After elections ratifying the leaders’ behavior, Mayor &amp; council proposed a parcel tax for more police, called for reform, and said the budget deficit of the budget they voted to pass was understated. 

	Voters have been tricked, hoodwinked, and bamboozled. They’re being manipulated to make a Sophie&#039;s choice between increasing our willfully understaffed police force or funding a deficit at least 3 times what leaders told voters it was last month. Familiar faces are now grandstanding to say we need reform and their leadership.

	What’s disingenuous is that they all were not long ago feeding at the same trough – either benefiting through others or directly, or passively neglecting the more honorable duty of oversight and vociferously notifying the public of the corruption and budget problems defaming Oakland as much as it’s intractable crime.
  
	Oakland deserves more. It may take recall and prosecution to obtain it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Campaigning for clean government and safe streets, I called for more cops, a wage freeze, top salary cuts, and audits to cut waste –  achievable without layoffs or service cuts. The “leaders” replied freezes and cuts would be too difficult to negotiate and granted raises, apparently believing it easier to lie to and manipulate the voters.</p>
<p>	After elections ratifying the leaders’ behavior, Mayor &amp; council proposed a parcel tax for more police, called for reform, and said the budget deficit of the budget they voted to pass was understated. </p>
<p>	Voters have been tricked, hoodwinked, and bamboozled. They’re being manipulated to make a Sophie&#8217;s choice between increasing our willfully understaffed police force or funding a deficit at least 3 times what leaders told voters it was last month. Familiar faces are now grandstanding to say we need reform and their leadership.</p>
<p>	What’s disingenuous is that they all were not long ago feeding at the same trough – either benefiting through others or directly, or passively neglecting the more honorable duty of oversight and vociferously notifying the public of the corruption and budget problems defaming Oakland as much as it’s intractable crime.</p>
<p>	Oakland deserves more. It may take recall and prosecution to obtain it.</p>
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		<title>By: V Smoothe</title>
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		<dc:creator>V Smoothe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Passage will be even less likely if the Council passes legislation allowing landlords to pass on part of the tax increase to their tenants, as Pat Kernighan suggested last night she would like to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Passage will be even less likely if the Council passes legislation allowing landlords to pass on part of the tax increase to their tenants, as Pat Kernighan suggested last night she would like to do.</p>
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		<title>By: justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not so sure this is going to pass: it needs 2/3 voter approval and I just don&#039;t see that happening in Oakland, even in a general election with Obama on the ballot.

I agree with Donald that the failure of this measure will offer some political cover of the &quot;well, if you all wanted police, you would have voted for them&quot; variety.  However, anyone in favor of more police, such as myself, can reject this tax based on the inability of the City to hire the police we&#039;re all already paying for through Measure Y.

The ballots going to be crowded with money, too: high speed rail, water bond, AC Transit, EBRPD, and now this.  Folks may just say no to all of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not so sure this is going to pass: it needs 2/3 voter approval and I just don&#8217;t see that happening in Oakland, even in a general election with Obama on the ballot.</p>
<p>I agree with Donald that the failure of this measure will offer some political cover of the &#8220;well, if you all wanted police, you would have voted for them&#8221; variety.  However, anyone in favor of more police, such as myself, can reject this tax based on the inability of the City to hire the police we&#8217;re all already paying for through Measure Y.</p>
<p>The ballots going to be crowded with money, too: high speed rail, water bond, AC Transit, EBRPD, and now this.  Folks may just say no to all of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well this is not a surprise.  And I won&#039;t be surprised if this passes.  Disappointed yes, but not surprised.  

I live in D4.  Quan is an idiot.  By her logic, lets just raise taxes to pay for everything that the government wants as long as each tax is less than it cost to fill up her 40 gallon tank.  What is she driving?

How do we start a stop this campaign?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well this is not a surprise.  And I won&#8217;t be surprised if this passes.  Disappointed yes, but not surprised.  </p>
<p>I live in D4.  Quan is an idiot.  By her logic, lets just raise taxes to pay for everything that the government wants as long as each tax is less than it cost to fill up her 40 gallon tank.  What is she driving?</p>
<p>How do we start a stop this campaign?</p>
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		<title>By: Donald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My concern is that the mayor has been playing politics in an effort to make the point that people don&#039;t really want additional police services--- enough to actually pay for---
it in the hope that he can avoid having additional police.  I know that is cynical,
but I&#039;m not oblivious to his leftist history.

Also, parcel taxes like this one create at least two revenue streams for the police department:  one from the general fund and one from the special tax.  What is to prevent some future council from reducing the general fund allocation?  Or reducing the normal increase of the general fund allocation?

That would effectively use the parcel tax to fund other priorities.  

I think it makes more sense, and is more honest to just go to the voters and ask for a property tax increase.  I would vote for that, but only if I thought the Council and City Manager were careful custodians of the city bank account.  I don&#039;t see the discipline, however.  I think the city should be run more like a business and less like the church it has become.

I&#039;m with Ignacio on this one.  Kudos to him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My concern is that the mayor has been playing politics in an effort to make the point that people don&#8217;t really want additional police services&#8212; enough to actually pay for&#8212;<br />
it in the hope that he can avoid having additional police.  I know that is cynical,<br />
but I&#8217;m not oblivious to his leftist history.</p>
<p>Also, parcel taxes like this one create at least two revenue streams for the police department:  one from the general fund and one from the special tax.  What is to prevent some future council from reducing the general fund allocation?  Or reducing the normal increase of the general fund allocation?</p>
<p>That would effectively use the parcel tax to fund other priorities.  </p>
<p>I think it makes more sense, and is more honest to just go to the voters and ask for a property tax increase.  I would vote for that, but only if I thought the Council and City Manager were careful custodians of the city bank account.  I don&#8217;t see the discipline, however.  I think the city should be run more like a business and less like the church it has become.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m with Ignacio on this one.  Kudos to him.</p>
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		<title>By: dto510</title>
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		<dc:creator>dto510</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jean Quan says it costs her $266 to fill up the tank of her SUV? What kind of gas-guzzler is she driving?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jean Quan says it costs her $266 to fill up the tank of her SUV? What kind of gas-guzzler is she driving?</p>
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		<title>By: Surfways</title>
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		<dc:creator>Surfways</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really need to find a way to communicate with other residents in District 4 to see if any of them have made Quan aware of their displeasure of her llogic and attitude (I am deaf and not many people seem willing to even try to communicate with me by way of text; email, paper/pen).

I wish I could offer a solution instead of complain... I can only hope that a competent person will be running against her when the D4 Council seat comes up for election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really need to find a way to communicate with other residents in District 4 to see if any of them have made Quan aware of their displeasure of her llogic and attitude (I am deaf and not many people seem willing to even try to communicate with me by way of text; email, paper/pen).</p>
<p>I wish I could offer a solution instead of complain&#8230; I can only hope that a competent person will be running against her when the D4 Council seat comes up for election.</p>
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		<title>By: Joanna/OnTheGoJo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joanna/OnTheGoJo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quan wants the police academy cadets counted????!!!!  Was she smokin crack?  Seriously?  NFW.

You know, by putting this on the ballet they can point their fingers back to the public when it doesn&#039;t pass and people complain about crime.  &quot;Well, you didn&#039;t want to pay for more cops, so you&#039;re not going to get more cops.&quot;  I can see it now.  What a lose/lose for the City.

It&#039;s not that I expect the disfunctional to suddenly become functional, but can there at least be some movement towards rational?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quan wants the police academy cadets counted????!!!!  Was she smokin crack?  Seriously?  NFW.</p>
<p>You know, by putting this on the ballet they can point their fingers back to the public when it doesn&#8217;t pass and people complain about crime.  &#8220;Well, you didn&#8217;t want to pay for more cops, so you&#8217;re not going to get more cops.&#8221;  I can see it now.  What a lose/lose for the City.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that I expect the disfunctional to suddenly become functional, but can there at least be some movement towards rational?</p>
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