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	<title>Comments on: Oakland does cabaret reform: why make life easier for small businesses when you can take more money from them instead?</title>
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		<title>By: Anne Campbell Washington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne Campbell Washington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am very encouraged by your report of what transpired at the meeting last night Max.  I believe a tiered fee structure  will go a long way toward encouraging more, smaller establishments to welcome musicians.   I came across the pamphlet that Chicago uses to succinctly describe what they call a &quot;Public Place of Amusement&quot; License (link below).  I think their license structure makes a lot of sense.

I also think that this pamphlet does a great job of describing the program and promoting Chicago as a place that values music and art.   Hopefully the cabaret license will be completely revamped, not just tweaked, and the communications to the business community will show that Oakland values its arts community as well.

http://egov.cityofchicago.org/webportal/COCWebPortal/COC_EDITORIAL/ppaguide0509.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very encouraged by your report of what transpired at the meeting last night Max.  I believe a tiered fee structure  will go a long way toward encouraging more, smaller establishments to welcome musicians.   I came across the pamphlet that Chicago uses to succinctly describe what they call a &#8220;Public Place of Amusement&#8221; License (link below).  I think their license structure makes a lot of sense.</p>
<p>I also think that this pamphlet does a great job of describing the program and promoting Chicago as a place that values music and art.   Hopefully the cabaret license will be completely revamped, not just tweaked, and the communications to the business community will show that Oakland values its arts community as well.</p>
<p><a href="http://egov.cityofchicago.org/webportal/COCWebPortal/COC_EDITORIAL/ppaguide0509.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://egov.cityofchicago.org/webportal/COCWebPortal/COC_EDITORIAL/ppaguide0509.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Max Allstadt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Allstadt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last night, the public safety committee opted to do another round of revisions to the Cabaret laws. And I couldn&#039;t be happier to hear it.

I was very pleasantly surprised to hear that Councilmembers Quan and Kernighan wanted even more flexibility and accommodation than what was put on the agenda.  Their primary concern was that accessory music in small restaurants and cafes should be allowed as-of-right.

What appears to be in the works at this point is some variation on a three tiered system.  One category would have no permits required at all, and would likely apply to restaurants and cafes, possibly with a curfew or other restrictions.  The second category seems to be shaping up as close to the mini-cabaret license that was proposed above.  The third is the cabaret license we currently have, for larger and more impactful establishments.

And what&#039;s more, OPD and the Committee were both willing to try a pilot program for after-hours clubs.  No alcohol would be served past two due to state law, but softdrinks and snacks would be available.  It was totally non-controversial, because it seemed clear to everybody in the room that staggering the exodus of drunkards from clubs makes for easier law enforcement.  Plus, giving people some alcohol-free time to calm down will also likely decrease DUIs.

To put it mildly, I was floored by what happened.  I really couldn&#039;t have hoped for a better result.  

Many thanks to Councilmembers Nadel and Kaplan for taking the lead on this.  In some ways, I think that because they chose to ask for something modest, it gave an opening for other Councilmembers to add their own common sense ideas, which really helped build consensus.

It looks like we&#039;re on our way some very sensible reforms.  Entertainment regulations are making a leap to the 21st century (from the 19th century!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last night, the public safety committee opted to do another round of revisions to the Cabaret laws. And I couldn&#8217;t be happier to hear it.</p>
<p>I was very pleasantly surprised to hear that Councilmembers Quan and Kernighan wanted even more flexibility and accommodation than what was put on the agenda.  Their primary concern was that accessory music in small restaurants and cafes should be allowed as-of-right.</p>
<p>What appears to be in the works at this point is some variation on a three tiered system.  One category would have no permits required at all, and would likely apply to restaurants and cafes, possibly with a curfew or other restrictions.  The second category seems to be shaping up as close to the mini-cabaret license that was proposed above.  The third is the cabaret license we currently have, for larger and more impactful establishments.</p>
<p>And what&#8217;s more, OPD and the Committee were both willing to try a pilot program for after-hours clubs.  No alcohol would be served past two due to state law, but softdrinks and snacks would be available.  It was totally non-controversial, because it seemed clear to everybody in the room that staggering the exodus of drunkards from clubs makes for easier law enforcement.  Plus, giving people some alcohol-free time to calm down will also likely decrease DUIs.</p>
<p>To put it mildly, I was floored by what happened.  I really couldn&#8217;t have hoped for a better result.  </p>
<p>Many thanks to Councilmembers Nadel and Kaplan for taking the lead on this.  In some ways, I think that because they chose to ask for something modest, it gave an opening for other Councilmembers to add their own common sense ideas, which really helped build consensus.</p>
<p>It looks like we&#8217;re on our way some very sensible reforms.  Entertainment regulations are making a leap to the 21st century (from the 19th century!).</p>
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		<title>By: Willis Stork</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/oakland-does-cabaret-reform-why-make-life-easier-for-small-businesses-when-you-can-take-more-money-from-them-instead/2009-10-23#comment-242132</link>
		<dc:creator>Willis Stork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 01:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Snap. Thank you, Mr. Hall.

I wish I didn&#039;t have a job interview today, I would so rather have been @ the Public Safety Committee meeting.
Very much looking forward to hearing how things transpired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snap. Thank you, Mr. Hall.</p>
<p>I wish I didn&#8217;t have a job interview today, I would so rather have been @ the Public Safety Committee meeting.<br />
Very much looking forward to hearing how things transpired.</p>
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		<title>By: bennett  Hall</title>
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		<dc:creator>bennett  Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reading this string, I wonder what it would be like if I were considering investing 50-100K or so in launching a new space in Oakland in light of the government (and the &quot;people&quot;) wanting to place spotlights around how I do every little detail.  Or, perhaps I just wanted my current place not to go broke for lack of business due to the 2009 depression by creating a more compelling customer experience.  Or, maybe I just let my friends play music in my cafe.  Would I want a big hassle and license fee around this - not mention the ASCAP police.

The regulation and compliance overload in our world pervades everything, and possible it is to the point now were it is a deterrent to enterprise, especially to small start-up entrepreneurs.  

Seasoned corporate operations of course have the capital and operations infrastructure to handle this, advance teams and what not.  Fire safety regulations, sanitation and public safety aside, (already handled by other code), I wonder if investing and promoting our various communities, marketing the neighborhoods, shop local programs and focusing on innovation, vitality and how to increase sales and employment could generate similar returns for the tax  shortfall that seems the underlying play here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reading this string, I wonder what it would be like if I were considering investing 50-100K or so in launching a new space in Oakland in light of the government (and the &#8220;people&#8221;) wanting to place spotlights around how I do every little detail.  Or, perhaps I just wanted my current place not to go broke for lack of business due to the 2009 depression by creating a more compelling customer experience.  Or, maybe I just let my friends play music in my cafe.  Would I want a big hassle and license fee around this &#8211; not mention the ASCAP police.</p>
<p>The regulation and compliance overload in our world pervades everything, and possible it is to the point now were it is a deterrent to enterprise, especially to small start-up entrepreneurs.  </p>
<p>Seasoned corporate operations of course have the capital and operations infrastructure to handle this, advance teams and what not.  Fire safety regulations, sanitation and public safety aside, (already handled by other code), I wonder if investing and promoting our various communities, marketing the neighborhoods, shop local programs and focusing on innovation, vitality and how to increase sales and employment could generate similar returns for the tax  shortfall that seems the underlying play here.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/oakland-does-cabaret-reform-why-make-life-easier-for-small-businesses-when-you-can-take-more-money-from-them-instead/2009-10-23#comment-242129</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 23:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max, a band in the back corner, I agree. But a band next to the front entrance, maybe there is a impact. And yes, I have seen bars with stages laid out that way. And no, I am not comfortable with a profit oriented bar owner making the decision about whether there might be an impact. All too oftern the result is &quot;it&#039;s good enough&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max, a band in the back corner, I agree. But a band next to the front entrance, maybe there is a impact. And yes, I have seen bars with stages laid out that way. And no, I am not comfortable with a profit oriented bar owner making the decision about whether there might be an impact. All too oftern the result is &#8220;it&#8217;s good enough&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Allstadt</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/oakland-does-cabaret-reform-why-make-life-easier-for-small-businesses-when-you-can-take-more-money-from-them-instead/2009-10-23#comment-242128</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Allstadt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 23:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert:

Disallowing cover charges reduces the intensity of the impact, because it means that the band is a bonus feature, not the main event or the main source of revenue.

Our plan does not require additional fire inspection unless the owner substatially alters the interior seating layout.  If you just put a band in the corner of a restaurant, you haven&#039;t changed fire safety.  Patrons still sit at the same tables and have the same egress routes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert:</p>
<p>Disallowing cover charges reduces the intensity of the impact, because it means that the band is a bonus feature, not the main event or the main source of revenue.</p>
<p>Our plan does not require additional fire inspection unless the owner substatially alters the interior seating layout.  If you just put a band in the corner of a restaurant, you haven&#8217;t changed fire safety.  Patrons still sit at the same tables and have the same egress routes.</p>
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		<title>By: Willis Stork</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/oakland-does-cabaret-reform-why-make-life-easier-for-small-businesses-when-you-can-take-more-money-from-them-instead/2009-10-23#comment-242120</link>
		<dc:creator>Willis Stork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is still a common good.

Focusing on ideas to present for discussion will and can only foster necessary changes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is still a common good.</p>
<p>Focusing on ideas to present for discussion will and can only foster necessary changes.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max, whether there is a cover charge does nothing to address whether the stage or entertainment area is interfering with the exit. And if what you are saying is that your proposal requires a fire inspection, then there needs to be a cost recovery for that, and it should no longer be free.

Matt, sort of good, but not much different for being free for some categories and charging for others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max, whether there is a cover charge does nothing to address whether the stage or entertainment area is interfering with the exit. And if what you are saying is that your proposal requires a fire inspection, then there needs to be a cost recovery for that, and it should no longer be free.</p>
<p>Matt, sort of good, but not much different for being free for some categories and charging for others.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Allstadt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Allstadt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, but Matt, that would be too sensible.

Also that kind of hoop-jumping and extra staff labor costs money.

The easiest ordinance to pass is a low-maintenance, clearly defined law that&#039;s short and easy to read.  Any opportunity to split hairs and parse words is trouble both for the legislators as they review the law, and for the staff who have to administer it afterwards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, but Matt, that would be too sensible.</p>
<p>Also that kind of hoop-jumping and extra staff labor costs money.</p>
<p>The easiest ordinance to pass is a low-maintenance, clearly defined law that&#8217;s short and easy to read.  Any opportunity to split hairs and parse words is trouble both for the legislators as they review the law, and for the staff who have to administer it afterwards.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There has been a lot of discussion here, now lets focus on a consensus. 

Max has entertainment experience, wants free permits and is optimistic about business owners taking responsibility for their premises as well as the ability for entertainment to bring up a neighborhood. Ralph and Robert want there neighborhoods to stay civilized and livable and see a $600 permit fee as a way to cover the cost of what they believe to be inevitable externalities related specifically to small cabarets. 

A win-win would be to have a permit/agreement with a fee based on a list of yes and no questions with a value placed on each yes or no for its cost to the city. If you score below a certain level you receive a free cabaret permit.  This would be public record allowing the community to police its cabarets. Last, the fine for violating the agreement should be enough to discourage most violations as well as to pay for the admin costs of the do-gooder’s free permits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There has been a lot of discussion here, now lets focus on a consensus. </p>
<p>Max has entertainment experience, wants free permits and is optimistic about business owners taking responsibility for their premises as well as the ability for entertainment to bring up a neighborhood. Ralph and Robert want there neighborhoods to stay civilized and livable and see a $600 permit fee as a way to cover the cost of what they believe to be inevitable externalities related specifically to small cabarets. </p>
<p>A win-win would be to have a permit/agreement with a fee based on a list of yes and no questions with a value placed on each yes or no for its cost to the city. If you score below a certain level you receive a free cabaret permit.  This would be public record allowing the community to police its cabarets. Last, the fine for violating the agreement should be enough to discourage most violations as well as to pay for the admin costs of the do-gooder’s free permits.</p>
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