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	<title>Comments on: NIMBYs!</title>
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		<title>By: Max Allstadt</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/nimbys/2008-05-20#comment-1782</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Allstadt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 19:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JAMMI -

The single family home is the absolute least ecological dwelling type.  Cities change.  They grow.  And while we&#039;re at it, 1950s urban planing is some of the most atrocious thought ever to blight the urban landscape.  Here are some of the things we can thank 50&#039;s and 60&#039;s urban planners for:

They built highways through poor neighborhoods using eminent domain to tear down peoples homes. 

They evicted most of the non-white homeowners from the Fillmore, engaged in racist redlining that kept black people&#039;s home values down.

Planned exclusively for the automobile and to the detriment of pedestrians - bridges built in NYC for instance, after the 40s, have no pedestrian paths.

Created neighborhoods with no pedestrian accessible services, stores, restaurants, etc.

Promised every family a castle in the form of a detached single family subdivision.  It worked, and the social interaction promoted by denser living was destroyed.

The cheaply built triplexes you lament are built to higher earthquake standards than everything around them, with building codes that guarantee light and air to the occupants, without asbestos, with double glazed windows, and with more humans per acre, more people sharing resources and more people who know their neighbors due to proximity.  What, exactly is the problem?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JAMMI -</p>
<p>The single family home is the absolute least ecological dwelling type.  Cities change.  They grow.  And while we&#8217;re at it, 1950s urban planing is some of the most atrocious thought ever to blight the urban landscape.  Here are some of the things we can thank 50&#8242;s and 60&#8242;s urban planners for:</p>
<p>They built highways through poor neighborhoods using eminent domain to tear down peoples homes. </p>
<p>They evicted most of the non-white homeowners from the Fillmore, engaged in racist redlining that kept black people&#8217;s home values down.</p>
<p>Planned exclusively for the automobile and to the detriment of pedestrians &#8211; bridges built in NYC for instance, after the 40s, have no pedestrian paths.</p>
<p>Created neighborhoods with no pedestrian accessible services, stores, restaurants, etc.</p>
<p>Promised every family a castle in the form of a detached single family subdivision.  It worked, and the social interaction promoted by denser living was destroyed.</p>
<p>The cheaply built triplexes you lament are built to higher earthquake standards than everything around them, with building codes that guarantee light and air to the occupants, without asbestos, with double glazed windows, and with more humans per acre, more people sharing resources and more people who know their neighbors due to proximity.  What, exactly is the problem?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Kidd</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/nimbys/2008-05-20#comment-1776</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Kidd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 20:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So we SHOULDN&#039;T amend a code to represent reality?  We should just leave our zoning code back in 1950&#039;s utopia?  If that&#039;s what the R-40 zone was supposed to represent, I&#039;m amazed that not only that neighborhood still uses it, but also that this terribly outdated zone is still in use.  

Instead of condemning everyone who&#039;s putting in in-laws or clamoring for higher density as harmful speculators, why don&#039;t we instead look at what this is saying about our city and region.  There is demand and need for more density in centrally located urban regions like Oakland.  This demand will only increase as transportation becomes more and more expensive.  So in response to this, you&#039;re saying that we should close our eyes, stop up our ears and demand no changes to a zoning code that you already admit has become hopelessly outdated and barely reflects the current makeup of the neighborhood?  If you&#039;re worried about parking and open space for a neighborhood, the way to address those issues isn&#039;t to cling to useless zoning, but work towards a newer appropriate zoning that admits and recognizes current conditions and seeks to find solutions that match up with them.  You could have the best neighborhood layout in the world on paper, but if it doesn&#039;t make sense with the current urban climate you&#039;ll end up with worse than bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So we SHOULDN&#8217;T amend a code to represent reality?  We should just leave our zoning code back in 1950&#8242;s utopia?  If that&#8217;s what the R-40 zone was supposed to represent, I&#8217;m amazed that not only that neighborhood still uses it, but also that this terribly outdated zone is still in use.  </p>
<p>Instead of condemning everyone who&#8217;s putting in in-laws or clamoring for higher density as harmful speculators, why don&#8217;t we instead look at what this is saying about our city and region.  There is demand and need for more density in centrally located urban regions like Oakland.  This demand will only increase as transportation becomes more and more expensive.  So in response to this, you&#8217;re saying that we should close our eyes, stop up our ears and demand no changes to a zoning code that you already admit has become hopelessly outdated and barely reflects the current makeup of the neighborhood?  If you&#8217;re worried about parking and open space for a neighborhood, the way to address those issues isn&#8217;t to cling to useless zoning, but work towards a newer appropriate zoning that admits and recognizes current conditions and seeks to find solutions that match up with them.  You could have the best neighborhood layout in the world on paper, but if it doesn&#8217;t make sense with the current urban climate you&#8217;ll end up with worse than bad.</p>
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		<title>By: JAMMI Journalist</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/nimbys/2008-05-20#comment-1775</link>
		<dc:creator>JAMMI Journalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 17:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How in your mind do 3-unit buildings fit well into an R-40 zone that is intended for &quot;single or two family dwellings and garden apartments in spacious settings for urban living?&quot;  In the 1940&#039;s and 1950&#039;s, the Metropolitan Oakland Area Plan marketed Oakland nationwide as an &quot;industrial garden&quot;, where contented workers could live in modest bungalows with beautiful backyard gardens, enjoying our supurb weather.  In the R-40 zone I live in, that era is gone as speculators and short-sighted property owners have built (legally or not) in-law apartments and second units.   These developments replace gardens with cheaply constructed units or driveways, reduce available parking while increasing demand, and have made &quot;garden apartments in spacious settings&quot; the exception, rather than the rule.  More triplexes will only replace single-family dwellings, decrease the proportion of owner-occupied properties compared to rentals, reward speculators and impact our quality of life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How in your mind do 3-unit buildings fit well into an R-40 zone that is intended for &#8220;single or two family dwellings and garden apartments in spacious settings for urban living?&#8221;  In the 1940&#8242;s and 1950&#8242;s, the Metropolitan Oakland Area Plan marketed Oakland nationwide as an &#8220;industrial garden&#8221;, where contented workers could live in modest bungalows with beautiful backyard gardens, enjoying our supurb weather.  In the R-40 zone I live in, that era is gone as speculators and short-sighted property owners have built (legally or not) in-law apartments and second units.   These developments replace gardens with cheaply constructed units or driveways, reduce available parking while increasing demand, and have made &#8220;garden apartments in spacious settings&#8221; the exception, rather than the rule.  More triplexes will only replace single-family dwellings, decrease the proportion of owner-occupied properties compared to rentals, reward speculators and impact our quality of life.</p>
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		<title>By: masb</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/nimbys/2008-05-20#comment-1676</link>
		<dc:creator>masb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 04:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on oakie.....!</description>
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		<title>By: oakie</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/nimbys/2008-05-20#comment-1674</link>
		<dc:creator>oakie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 03:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$50,000 to establish a Food Policy Council? Jeesh, what a waste of money. Haven&#039;t they read Michael Pollen? Here&#039;s a policy: &quot;Eat Food, Not Too Much, Mostly Plants.&quot; The end. Just saved the taxpayers of Oakland $50,000. If you need to read the details of that food policy, &#039;get his book for $20.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$50,000 to establish a Food Policy Council? Jeesh, what a waste of money. Haven&#8217;t they read Michael Pollen? Here&#8217;s a policy: &#8220;Eat Food, Not Too Much, Mostly Plants.&#8221; The end. Just saved the taxpayers of Oakland $50,000. If you need to read the details of that food policy, &#8216;get his book for $20.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Pine</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/nimbys/2008-05-20#comment-1668</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Pine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 23:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s considerably more to the story about the proposed development at High St. and MacArthur Blvd. See &quot;Coverup of Toxic Waste Revealed&quot; at www.orpn.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s considerably more to the story about the proposed development at High St. and MacArthur Blvd. See &#8220;Coverup of Toxic Waste Revealed&#8221; at <a href="http://www.orpn.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.orpn.org</a></p>
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