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		<title>By: Coolhand Luke</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/new-oakland-taxes-oo-repeal-update/2009-02-24#comment-85386</link>
		<dc:creator>Coolhand Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ralph,

First of all, thank you very much for reading my blog! I hella appreciate it.  I just graduated from Oakland Tech in 2004 and suspect that not too much has changed since then.  I can write, thanks to reading, Youth Speaks writing workshops and UCLA, but I can&#039;t count OUSD as one of those positive writing influences.  Furthermore, despite my ability, I still struggle with grammar.  It has been a self-taught crash course and is one of the things that will really hamper my foray into the journalistic world.  I was taught to put a comma when I have to take a breath, just so you get an idea of my grammatical training. 

I agree with everything you are saying.  I am not advocating that you throw writing standards out the window in favor of ebonics education.  I&#039;m just saying that 1. We can&#039;t blame the students for not knowing how to write and 2. That I have found it valuable to utilize alternative literature to boost student interest in reading and writing.  It&#039;s not that you throw out the classics, but that sometimes you supplement those with literature that meets them half way.

From working with Youth Speaks, a youth poetry org in the Bay Area, and running after school programs in South Central LA, I have found this tactic to be invaluable.  Promoting under-appreciated authors from a variety of backgrounds can show students sides to reading and writing that they were not aware of.  That&#039;s why I bring up Junot Diaz.  Yes Diaz knows the basics, but he utilizes a multi-lingual vernacular voice that can draw readers in in a different way.  I have found it more successful to harness these types of books to promote the basics, than it is to keep pushing the same stuff over and over again.

I even would have students analyze song lyrics and draw parallels between them and poetry.  Yes the basics are important, but in such a multi-cultural and multi-lingual country and city, I feel that we are setting ourselves up for failure if we ignore the mediums and stories most relevant to our students. 

I believe that content is king, and that if material is interesting students will embrace it.  In that vein, there was one program at Tech that proved this beyond a shadow of a doubt.  TryUMF (Trying to Uplift My Folks) focused on character development, social theory, gender studies and a bunch of other great topics. It wasn&#039;t too big on writing, but we were challenged to read and understand college level texts by Paulo Friere, Franz Fanon, bell hooks, Ché Guevara, etc from 9th grade on. 

The key though was interpreting these works through a present day subjective lens that incorporated music, film, etc.  For example, one assignment was a comparative essay between Friere&#039;s Pedagogy of the Oppressed and the film The Matrix.  The writing needed work, but that first bridge of relevance was crossed. 

Just a few thoughts. Yes the foundation is key, but I think we can get there from different angles, and promote our student&#039;s creativity in the process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ralph,</p>
<p>First of all, thank you very much for reading my blog! I hella appreciate it.  I just graduated from Oakland Tech in 2004 and suspect that not too much has changed since then.  I can write, thanks to reading, Youth Speaks writing workshops and UCLA, but I can&#8217;t count OUSD as one of those positive writing influences.  Furthermore, despite my ability, I still struggle with grammar.  It has been a self-taught crash course and is one of the things that will really hamper my foray into the journalistic world.  I was taught to put a comma when I have to take a breath, just so you get an idea of my grammatical training. </p>
<p>I agree with everything you are saying.  I am not advocating that you throw writing standards out the window in favor of ebonics education.  I&#8217;m just saying that 1. We can&#8217;t blame the students for not knowing how to write and 2. That I have found it valuable to utilize alternative literature to boost student interest in reading and writing.  It&#8217;s not that you throw out the classics, but that sometimes you supplement those with literature that meets them half way.</p>
<p>From working with Youth Speaks, a youth poetry org in the Bay Area, and running after school programs in South Central LA, I have found this tactic to be invaluable.  Promoting under-appreciated authors from a variety of backgrounds can show students sides to reading and writing that they were not aware of.  That&#8217;s why I bring up Junot Diaz.  Yes Diaz knows the basics, but he utilizes a multi-lingual vernacular voice that can draw readers in in a different way.  I have found it more successful to harness these types of books to promote the basics, than it is to keep pushing the same stuff over and over again.</p>
<p>I even would have students analyze song lyrics and draw parallels between them and poetry.  Yes the basics are important, but in such a multi-cultural and multi-lingual country and city, I feel that we are setting ourselves up for failure if we ignore the mediums and stories most relevant to our students. </p>
<p>I believe that content is king, and that if material is interesting students will embrace it.  In that vein, there was one program at Tech that proved this beyond a shadow of a doubt.  TryUMF (Trying to Uplift My Folks) focused on character development, social theory, gender studies and a bunch of other great topics. It wasn&#8217;t too big on writing, but we were challenged to read and understand college level texts by Paulo Friere, Franz Fanon, bell hooks, Ché Guevara, etc from 9th grade on. </p>
<p>The key though was interpreting these works through a present day subjective lens that incorporated music, film, etc.  For example, one assignment was a comparative essay between Friere&#8217;s Pedagogy of the Oppressed and the film The Matrix.  The writing needed work, but that first bridge of relevance was crossed. </p>
<p>Just a few thoughts. Yes the foundation is key, but I think we can get there from different angles, and promote our student&#8217;s creativity in the process.</p>
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		<title>By: glory</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/new-oakland-taxes-oo-repeal-update/2009-02-24#comment-85315</link>
		<dc:creator>glory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like I said a happy medium for all is what is needed,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like I said a happy medium for all is what is needed,</p>
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		<title>By: V Smoothe</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/new-oakland-taxes-oo-repeal-update/2009-02-24#comment-85309</link>
		<dc:creator>V Smoothe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>glory, I don&#039;t know who you&#039;ve been talking to, but you&#039;re terribly misinformed. First, Measure OO hasn&#039;t &quot;gone to&quot; anything, because it hasn&#039;t started yet. Second, the money does not go to parks and rec &lt;b&gt;or&lt;/b&gt; to libraries, it takes funding away from those things. I suggest your try to get the facts straight in the future before advocating for the diversion of taxpayer money to outside organizations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>glory, I don&#8217;t know who you&#8217;ve been talking to, but you&#8217;re terribly misinformed. First, Measure OO hasn&#8217;t &#8220;gone to&#8221; anything, because it hasn&#8217;t started yet. Second, the money does not go to parks and rec <b>or</b> to libraries, it takes funding away from those things. I suggest your try to get the facts straight in the future before advocating for the diversion of taxpayer money to outside organizations.</p>
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		<title>By: glory</title>
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		<dc:creator>glory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe in the saying &quot;It takes a village to raise a child&quot; and ultimitely society does play a role, after all we raise children to want to change the world right? Obviously we aren&#039;t to happy with it either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe in the saying &#8220;It takes a village to raise a child&#8221; and ultimitely society does play a role, after all we raise children to want to change the world right? Obviously we aren&#8217;t to happy with it either.</p>
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		<title>By: glory</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/new-oakland-taxes-oo-repeal-update/2009-02-24#comment-85305</link>
		<dc:creator>glory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Measure OO has gone to parks and recs in my neighborhood and to the libraries.  In my neighborhood the parks and rec center doesn&#039;t have very good programs or staff that run them.  I always here parents complaining to the director that the staff don&#039;t take good care of the kids.  

Also, my argument is not give us money or we&#039;ll rape you.  My argument is that when money is taken from programs that keep kids safe and I mean ALL kids, you risk the chance of kids turning to something else like the streets WHERE they can easily be influenced to join gangs and commmit crimes, there needs to be some medium where everyone can agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Measure OO has gone to parks and recs in my neighborhood and to the libraries.  In my neighborhood the parks and rec center doesn&#8217;t have very good programs or staff that run them.  I always here parents complaining to the director that the staff don&#8217;t take good care of the kids.  </p>
<p>Also, my argument is not give us money or we&#8217;ll rape you.  My argument is that when money is taken from programs that keep kids safe and I mean ALL kids, you risk the chance of kids turning to something else like the streets WHERE they can easily be influenced to join gangs and commmit crimes, there needs to be some medium where everyone can agree.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/new-oakland-taxes-oo-repeal-update/2009-02-24#comment-85300</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glory - A third of the day the kid is in school, a third of the day the kid is asleep - and you think society should be responsible for the other third of the day as well?  That&#039;s an argument for forced sterilization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glory &#8211; A third of the day the kid is in school, a third of the day the kid is asleep &#8211; and you think society should be responsible for the other third of the day as well?  That&#8217;s an argument for forced sterilization.</p>
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		<title>By: V Smoothe</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/new-oakland-taxes-oo-repeal-update/2009-02-24#comment-85271</link>
		<dc:creator>V Smoothe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Give us money or our kids will RAPE you? That&#039;s your argument, glory?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give us money or our kids will RAPE you? That&#8217;s your argument, glory?</p>
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		<title>By: dto510</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/new-oakland-taxes-oo-repeal-update/2009-02-24#comment-85267</link>
		<dc:creator>dto510</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>glory, Kids First does not support the library - quite the opposite, it starves the library of funds by channeling them to non-profits! No amount of paycuts for the &quot;higharchy&quot; would compensate for the millions Measure OO would take from essential services including parks and rec, the library, and policing. Feel ashamed all you want, but funding non-profit programs is not an essential city service, and is not the best way the city can help young people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>glory, Kids First does not support the library &#8211; quite the opposite, it starves the library of funds by channeling them to non-profits! No amount of paycuts for the &#8220;higharchy&#8221; would compensate for the millions Measure OO would take from essential services including parks and rec, the library, and policing. Feel ashamed all you want, but funding non-profit programs is not an essential city service, and is not the best way the city can help young people.</p>
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		<title>By: glory</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/new-oakland-taxes-oo-repeal-update/2009-02-24#comment-85146</link>
		<dc:creator>glory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s really sad that no one is considering all the single parents that are working (not on welfare) to support their families and the only help they get is having children in after school programs run by non profits or programs at the library.  No one is talking about how this affects us and our families and the limited amount of space available for our kids in these programs.  I think the city would prefer that these families just let their kids run wild on the streets, yes, commit crimes, rapes, etc. I mean why bother in investing in their future it&#039;s not like they won&#039;t eventually be voters.  It&#039;s a shame that I actually belong to a city that cares so little about the youth of their society, oh and about the money why don&#039;t the higharchy take a paycut I know I would.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s really sad that no one is considering all the single parents that are working (not on welfare) to support their families and the only help they get is having children in after school programs run by non profits or programs at the library.  No one is talking about how this affects us and our families and the limited amount of space available for our kids in these programs.  I think the city would prefer that these families just let their kids run wild on the streets, yes, commit crimes, rapes, etc. I mean why bother in investing in their future it&#8217;s not like they won&#8217;t eventually be voters.  It&#8217;s a shame that I actually belong to a city that cares so little about the youth of their society, oh and about the money why don&#8217;t the higharchy take a paycut I know I would.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coolhand, I read your blog, and I have a friend who graduated from O-High.  Both of you learned English.  Sometime after you graduated either the school system went downhill or the intellectual curiosity of the students vanished. 

I am reading the book No Excuses Closing the Racial Gap in Learning. I will spare you the detail of the content, but will relay one sentence.  No one has invented a method to teach algebra to students who don&#039;t know their times tables.  I suspect that English teachers face a similar problem.  There are some basic skills that one should learn at an early age; they lack the time to go back and teach those skills because they have body of work they must teach to prepare you for the next level. (That being said, I do recall that my school used part of the 9th grade year to ground the students in the fundamentals.) And unlike private schools, public schools probably lack the resources to have a basic writing class after the 9th grade.

The key in all cases is to enforce the proper skills at an early age.  Show me a student who gets past 4th grade unable either to write a sentence or to multiply fraction, I will show a student who is in for a bumpy ride.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coolhand, I read your blog, and I have a friend who graduated from O-High.  Both of you learned English.  Sometime after you graduated either the school system went downhill or the intellectual curiosity of the students vanished. </p>
<p>I am reading the book No Excuses Closing the Racial Gap in Learning. I will spare you the detail of the content, but will relay one sentence.  No one has invented a method to teach algebra to students who don&#8217;t know their times tables.  I suspect that English teachers face a similar problem.  There are some basic skills that one should learn at an early age; they lack the time to go back and teach those skills because they have body of work they must teach to prepare you for the next level. (That being said, I do recall that my school used part of the 9th grade year to ground the students in the fundamentals.) And unlike private schools, public schools probably lack the resources to have a basic writing class after the 9th grade.</p>
<p>The key in all cases is to enforce the proper skills at an early age.  Show me a student who gets past 4th grade unable either to write a sentence or to multiply fraction, I will show a student who is in for a bumpy ride.</p>
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