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		<title>By: len raphael</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/local-news-is-a-rough-business/2008-02-29#comment-600</link>
		<dc:creator>len raphael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 07:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nav makes a valid generalization about the middle and upper middle residents of oakland apathy about civic affairs of their city. over the last several months going door to door for various temescal matters, i&#039;ve been dismayed by the apathy and cheered by the extremely high quality effort of the relative few who are engaged. and that goes for people on both sides of local issues who don&#039;t have immediate financial interests at stake.

but for the apathic, it was summed up for me the other day by 30 something professional whom I asked  to sign a nominating petition and was told  something to the effect that &quot;i only vote on national issues. I&#039;m a renter&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nav makes a valid generalization about the middle and upper middle residents of oakland apathy about civic affairs of their city. over the last several months going door to door for various temescal matters, i&#8217;ve been dismayed by the apathy and cheered by the extremely high quality effort of the relative few who are engaged. and that goes for people on both sides of local issues who don&#8217;t have immediate financial interests at stake.</p>
<p>but for the apathic, it was summed up for me the other day by 30 something professional whom I asked  to sign a nominating petition and was told  something to the effect that &#8220;i only vote on national issues. I&#8217;m a renter&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Navigator</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/local-news-is-a-rough-business/2008-02-29#comment-597</link>
		<dc:creator>Navigator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 19:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not a matter of bashing. There are attitudes in Oakland which need to change. From the destructive behavior of a small segment of the population, to the general &quot;It&#039;s not my problem&quot; attitudes of its well-to-do residents. 

Let&#039;s face it, there is an underclass in Oakland which costs the city millions of dollars just to keep up with their uncivil, destructive, and self-centered behavior. The upkeep for graffiti removal, cleaning the streets of litter, repairing destroyed property, is an expense which suburban cities like Walnut Creek for example, are largely spared .  Anyone who drives around downtown Oakland sees the litter near the bus stops, the graffiti on just about every utility box, mail box, light standard, newspaper rack, door way etc. The new bus shelters on Berkley Way near Sears have already been vandalized and the bus shelters littered. The new parking meter boxes dowtown are already covered in graffiti. This is an expense caused not by the affects of weather and time, but an expense caused by an unproductive segment of society bent on uncivil and destructive behavior. No one is asking these individuals to contribute anything to society other than to just control their destructive impulses. Even conforming to that, seems a tall order. Unfortunately, the vast majority of residents who want to live in a clean and orderly society are forced to live by the standards of the uncivil.

 Oakland is a city which tolerates this type of behavior. We have a police department which can&#039;t, or wont, protect private property. We have a public works department which rewards the vandals by allowing their blight to fester for days, weeks, months, and in some cases, for years. These vandals know where to go in order to have their &quot;work&quot; memorialized.

This mediocrity permeates throughout Oakland city government. A city government with a 1 billion dollar budget which can&#039;t even accomplish the straight forward task of keeping its downtown free of litter and graffiti. This mediocrity is allowed to fester because of the general disinterest of the well-to-do class in local government.  As long as their immediate neighborhood needs can be addressed at some level from City Hall, then, downtown and the rest of the city can be ignored. We need professional people from Montclair, Rockridge, Piedmont Ave., Trestle Glenn,  Ridgemont, Lake Shore/Grand,  and throughout the city to become involved in local politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not a matter of bashing. There are attitudes in Oakland which need to change. From the destructive behavior of a small segment of the population, to the general &#8220;It&#8217;s not my problem&#8221; attitudes of its well-to-do residents. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s face it, there is an underclass in Oakland which costs the city millions of dollars just to keep up with their uncivil, destructive, and self-centered behavior. The upkeep for graffiti removal, cleaning the streets of litter, repairing destroyed property, is an expense which suburban cities like Walnut Creek for example, are largely spared .  Anyone who drives around downtown Oakland sees the litter near the bus stops, the graffiti on just about every utility box, mail box, light standard, newspaper rack, door way etc. The new bus shelters on Berkley Way near Sears have already been vandalized and the bus shelters littered. The new parking meter boxes dowtown are already covered in graffiti. This is an expense caused not by the affects of weather and time, but an expense caused by an unproductive segment of society bent on uncivil and destructive behavior. No one is asking these individuals to contribute anything to society other than to just control their destructive impulses. Even conforming to that, seems a tall order. Unfortunately, the vast majority of residents who want to live in a clean and orderly society are forced to live by the standards of the uncivil.</p>
<p> Oakland is a city which tolerates this type of behavior. We have a police department which can&#8217;t, or wont, protect private property. We have a public works department which rewards the vandals by allowing their blight to fester for days, weeks, months, and in some cases, for years. These vandals know where to go in order to have their &#8220;work&#8221; memorialized.</p>
<p>This mediocrity permeates throughout Oakland city government. A city government with a 1 billion dollar budget which can&#8217;t even accomplish the straight forward task of keeping its downtown free of litter and graffiti. This mediocrity is allowed to fester because of the general disinterest of the well-to-do class in local government.  As long as their immediate neighborhood needs can be addressed at some level from City Hall, then, downtown and the rest of the city can be ignored. We need professional people from Montclair, Rockridge, Piedmont Ave., Trestle Glenn,  Ridgemont, Lake Shore/Grand,  and throughout the city to become involved in local politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Hilary</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/local-news-is-a-rough-business/2008-02-29#comment-591</link>
		<dc:creator>Hilary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 20:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chip Johnson&#039;s article certainly brought your blogsite to my attention.  I don&#039;t much like player haters.  I don&#039;t like bashers.  What are you doing to help Oakland, other than sitting in the &quot;shadows&quot;, criticizing, complaining, blaming?  As a person who volunteers to improve situations, not in Oakland mind you, but in the Berkeley public school district, I help deal with issues of race, violence, homelessness, education and economics with a severe shortage of funding on a microsmic basis.  I can only imagine what Mayor Dellums is faced with dealing with the City of Oakland. Get some perspective.  
HKitka
Berkeley</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chip Johnson&#8217;s article certainly brought your blogsite to my attention.  I don&#8217;t much like player haters.  I don&#8217;t like bashers.  What are you doing to help Oakland, other than sitting in the &#8220;shadows&#8221;, criticizing, complaining, blaming?  As a person who volunteers to improve situations, not in Oakland mind you, but in the Berkeley public school district, I help deal with issues of race, violence, homelessness, education and economics with a severe shortage of funding on a microsmic basis.  I can only imagine what Mayor Dellums is faced with dealing with the City of Oakland. Get some perspective.<br />
HKitka<br />
Berkeley</p>
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		<title>By: Navigator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Navigator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 01:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry if I ruffled some feathers, but the observations mentioned above come from personal experiences. There are people living in Oakland who deny their Oakland identity. We have people living in Rockridge  pretending they live in &quot;Berkeley&quot; and making statements like &quot;Rockridge isn&#039;t really Oakland,&quot;   Even the Oakland Board of Realtors advertise homes in the Claremont area of the North Oakland Hills as &quot;Berkeley&quot; because of a shared zip code, and who knows what else. They are in effect perpetuating the negativity that exists in many neighboring cities regarding Oakland. 

Many Montclair residents will tell friends and acquaintances that they live in &quot;Montclair&quot; before ever mentioning the dreaded &quot;O&#039; word. Well-to-do Oaklanders, in large do not support their own city. They support SF, Walnut Creek, Emeryville etc.  Go to Jack London Square on any weekend and the place is a ghost town. It&#039;s a shame that a city of 400,000 residents can&#039;t, or wont, support its own institutions  or get involved in making the entire city better by participating in the civic process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry if I ruffled some feathers, but the observations mentioned above come from personal experiences. There are people living in Oakland who deny their Oakland identity. We have people living in Rockridge  pretending they live in &#8220;Berkeley&#8221; and making statements like &#8220;Rockridge isn&#8217;t really Oakland,&#8221;   Even the Oakland Board of Realtors advertise homes in the Claremont area of the North Oakland Hills as &#8220;Berkeley&#8221; because of a shared zip code, and who knows what else. They are in effect perpetuating the negativity that exists in many neighboring cities regarding Oakland. </p>
<p>Many Montclair residents will tell friends and acquaintances that they live in &#8220;Montclair&#8221; before ever mentioning the dreaded &#8220;O&#8217; word. Well-to-do Oaklanders, in large do not support their own city. They support SF, Walnut Creek, Emeryville etc.  Go to Jack London Square on any weekend and the place is a ghost town. It&#8217;s a shame that a city of 400,000 residents can&#8217;t, or wont, support its own institutions  or get involved in making the entire city better by participating in the civic process.</p>
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		<title>By: masb</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/local-news-is-a-rough-business/2008-02-29#comment-546</link>
		<dc:creator>masb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi John - I am a thirty year resident of Oakland - Rockridge is my past, downtown is my present.  I have been enjoying my relationship with Oakland throughout.  I guess my flip response to you was predicated by your seemingly hostile comments.  I wonder how many of the posts you have actually read?  Granted, sometimes the posts are opinionated (why not - this is a blog, not a news organization) but most of the time I find them to be loaded with information backed up by various credible resources and worthy of attention.  A lot of time and effort is spent sharing this information with us and I thought your comment &quot;get a job&quot; was unworthy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John &#8211; I am a thirty year resident of Oakland &#8211; Rockridge is my past, downtown is my present.  I have been enjoying my relationship with Oakland throughout.  I guess my flip response to you was predicated by your seemingly hostile comments.  I wonder how many of the posts you have actually read?  Granted, sometimes the posts are opinionated (why not &#8211; this is a blog, not a news organization) but most of the time I find them to be loaded with information backed up by various credible resources and worthy of attention.  A lot of time and effort is spent sharing this information with us and I thought your comment &#8220;get a job&#8221; was unworthy.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/local-news-is-a-rough-business/2008-02-29#comment-541</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 07:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi masb: thanks for your comment.  I guess I could ask the same about you, no?  In any case, I am a 20-year resident of Oakland.  Navigator is wrong because all of the areas mentioned in N.&#039;s post: Montclair, Rockridge, Piedmont Ave., Lakeshore/Grand, are NOT filled with SF transplants.  Many, many of the residents have lived in these areas for decades and generations - they did not just arrive after getting buckets of cash from the DOTCOM boom.  

They are just as devoted to their neighborhoods as any other Oakland resident.  N.&#039;s saying that residents of those neighborhoods (which are an homogenous social/political constituency) don&#039;t support local institutions or have no loyalty to Oakland only shows how little N. really knows about those areas and the residents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi masb: thanks for your comment.  I guess I could ask the same about you, no?  In any case, I am a 20-year resident of Oakland.  Navigator is wrong because all of the areas mentioned in N.&#8217;s post: Montclair, Rockridge, Piedmont Ave., Lakeshore/Grand, are NOT filled with SF transplants.  Many, many of the residents have lived in these areas for decades and generations &#8211; they did not just arrive after getting buckets of cash from the DOTCOM boom.  </p>
<p>They are just as devoted to their neighborhoods as any other Oakland resident.  N.&#8217;s saying that residents of those neighborhoods (which are an homogenous social/political constituency) don&#8217;t support local institutions or have no loyalty to Oakland only shows how little N. really knows about those areas and the residents.</p>
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		<title>By: masb</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/local-news-is-a-rough-business/2008-02-29#comment-536</link>
		<dc:creator>masb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 04:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who the hell is John and what the hell does he know?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who the hell is John and what the hell does he know?</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/local-news-is-a-rough-business/2008-02-29#comment-534</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 23:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Navigator: jeez, where to begin regarding your comments?  Maybe I will begin by ending - you can&#039;t even imagine how wrong you are.  The end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Navigator: jeez, where to begin regarding your comments?  Maybe I will begin by ending &#8211; you can&#8217;t even imagine how wrong you are.  The end.</p>
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		<title>By: Navigator</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/local-news-is-a-rough-business/2008-02-29#comment-530</link>
		<dc:creator>Navigator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oakland&#039;s lack of local political interest stems from the fact that too many of its well to do neighborhoods such as Montclair, Rockridge, Piedmont Ave., Lake Shore/Grand etc. are filled with SF transplants ingrained with balkanized neighborhood attitudes. Among many of these residents there is a lack of civic and residential identity to &quot;Oakland.&quot;  Many of these residents view their neighborhoods as bedroom communities to SF. They don&#039;t support Oakland institutions and have no loyalty to the city. As a matter of fact, many of these residents feel the need to explain their &quot;Oakland&quot; residency to family and friends. It&#039;s a sad state of affairs when individuals enjoy all that Oakland has to offer while at the same time denying their Oakland identity and without giving Oakland its proper due as a wonderful place. I suspect, some of these attitudes are racially tinted while others are merely elitist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oakland&#8217;s lack of local political interest stems from the fact that too many of its well to do neighborhoods such as Montclair, Rockridge, Piedmont Ave., Lake Shore/Grand etc. are filled with SF transplants ingrained with balkanized neighborhood attitudes. Among many of these residents there is a lack of civic and residential identity to &#8220;Oakland.&#8221;  Many of these residents view their neighborhoods as bedroom communities to SF. They don&#8217;t support Oakland institutions and have no loyalty to the city. As a matter of fact, many of these residents feel the need to explain their &#8220;Oakland&#8221; residency to family and friends. It&#8217;s a sad state of affairs when individuals enjoy all that Oakland has to offer while at the same time denying their Oakland identity and without giving Oakland its proper due as a wonderful place. I suspect, some of these attitudes are racially tinted while others are merely elitist.</p>
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		<title>By: Californio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Californio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 17:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are Oaklanders not concerned with local politics? It&#039;s important to look at who Oaklanders are to answer this. A large majority are blue collar workers, too busy with the duties of earning a living and raising kids to have time for the Byzantine workings of City Hall, the Port of Oakland, and so forth. Some Oaklanders are also recent immigrants with limited English, and if you&#039;ve ever lived in a foreign city, you know how difficult it is to get interested in local politics in a culture that is  not your own. The above reasons apply to almost any larger city, however. What&#039;s different about Oakland is that, theoretically, there is also a large base of college-educated, English-speaking, politically motivated citizens who STILL are not interested in local politics. This group has larger aspirations in its politicking; it thinks globally, not locally; it wants an end to the WTO, but can&#039;t make up its mind on speed bumps  or spend time getting trees planted in the neighboring streets. For this group, there is less fulfillment in local politics than the effort warrants. (And, as anyone who has tried it knows, the effort required is enormous.) It does seem curious, but even with all its highly political citizens, Oakland will remain apathetic on a local level unless something changes in the mix.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are Oaklanders not concerned with local politics? It&#8217;s important to look at who Oaklanders are to answer this. A large majority are blue collar workers, too busy with the duties of earning a living and raising kids to have time for the Byzantine workings of City Hall, the Port of Oakland, and so forth. Some Oaklanders are also recent immigrants with limited English, and if you&#8217;ve ever lived in a foreign city, you know how difficult it is to get interested in local politics in a culture that is  not your own. The above reasons apply to almost any larger city, however. What&#8217;s different about Oakland is that, theoretically, there is also a large base of college-educated, English-speaking, politically motivated citizens who STILL are not interested in local politics. This group has larger aspirations in its politicking; it thinks globally, not locally; it wants an end to the WTO, but can&#8217;t make up its mind on speed bumps  or spend time getting trees planted in the neighboring streets. For this group, there is less fulfillment in local politics than the effort warrants. (And, as anyone who has tried it knows, the effort required is enormous.) It does seem curious, but even with all its highly political citizens, Oakland will remain apathetic on a local level unless something changes in the mix.</p>
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