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	<title>Comments on: June 2008 Endorsements</title>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/june-2008-endorsements/2008-06-02#comment-1974</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting point.  I&#039;ll will mull that over.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting point.  I&#8217;ll will mull that over.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: josh abrams</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/june-2008-endorsements/2008-06-02#comment-1973</link>
		<dc:creator>josh abrams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 08:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barry - I am not saying that it is a good thing having folks who stand to benefit from being in the good graces of council members donate $$$ to them - I was just making the point that some journalists paint things in one light when a bit more research would show things differently.  
I would support 100% public financing (thus avoiding the problems of members being beholden to donors or only the deep-pocketed being able to run) but I think that would tip the balance too far toward labor (they can turn out the manpower to win a race, which is impossible to regulate).  It seems like it would be unfair to regulate business (no $ from city contractors, etc) while not being able to regulate labor (hard to say no to a pay bump for the union who turned out 100s of folks to walk for you).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry &#8211; I am not saying that it is a good thing having folks who stand to benefit from being in the good graces of council members donate $$$ to them &#8211; I was just making the point that some journalists paint things in one light when a bit more research would show things differently.<br />
I would support 100% public financing (thus avoiding the problems of members being beholden to donors or only the deep-pocketed being able to run) but I think that would tip the balance too far toward labor (they can turn out the manpower to win a race, which is impossible to regulate).  It seems like it would be unfair to regulate business (no $ from city contractors, etc) while not being able to regulate labor (hard to say no to a pay bump for the union who turned out 100s of folks to walk for you).</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/june-2008-endorsements/2008-06-02#comment-1971</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 05:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh -- the rule about contractors making contributions to city council candidates who control the purse strings may be on the books, but in practice, doesn&#039;t pass the smell test.

Of course a contractor (like BBI, the builder behind Municipal  Boathouse Restaurant restoration) is going to feel comfortable crossing a palm (of Nancy Nadel) with cash (see her campaign financials) and just wait a few months to ask for 1.5 million dollars for the project.  The amount he has given NN is chump change to what he is going to receive in the end once she pushes a resolution to give him the money he wants.

What bothers me is Nadel seemed to be so clueless as how it appears to others -- ie taxpayers.  

She really does live in a bubble.

Thanks, V, for publishing the financial statements.  I still hear the NN propaganda -- that she is not the developer candidate and therefore is free from that type of financial influence as opposed to her challengers  -- being reiterated by loyal supporters.  

Martyrhood is one thing, not being truthful is quite another.

&#039;Way to play the martyr card.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh &#8212; the rule about contractors making contributions to city council candidates who control the purse strings may be on the books, but in practice, doesn&#8217;t pass the smell test.</p>
<p>Of course a contractor (like BBI, the builder behind Municipal  Boathouse Restaurant restoration) is going to feel comfortable crossing a palm (of Nancy Nadel) with cash (see her campaign financials) and just wait a few months to ask for 1.5 million dollars for the project.  The amount he has given NN is chump change to what he is going to receive in the end once she pushes a resolution to give him the money he wants.</p>
<p>What bothers me is Nadel seemed to be so clueless as how it appears to others &#8212; ie taxpayers.  </p>
<p>She really does live in a bubble.</p>
<p>Thanks, V, for publishing the financial statements.  I still hear the NN propaganda &#8212; that she is not the developer candidate and therefore is free from that type of financial influence as opposed to her challengers  &#8212; being reiterated by loyal supporters.  </p>
<p>Martyrhood is one thing, not being truthful is quite another.</p>
<p>&#8216;Way to play the martyr card.</p>
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		<title>By: V Smoothe</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/june-2008-endorsements/2008-06-02#comment-1969</link>
		<dc:creator>V Smoothe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 02:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Becks - 

Rebecca has personally been very nice to me, and I&#039;ve really enjoyed the opportunities I&#039;ve had to talk to her. But it did disturb me that two separate people I know, neither of whom know one another and one of whom isn&#039;t involved at politics at all, felt the need to tell almost the exact same story without any prompting. It seemed worth mentioning.

In the end, I agree with you, and all the points you hit on your blog about Sean. Kaplan can get things done. When I had coffee with her, I think that my favorite thing out of everything she said was when I was talking to her about some of my frustrations with inefficiencies in our government due to mandates in the City Charter. Almost the second I finished speaking, she spat out &quot;Well then, the solution is to change the City Charter. We can do that!&quot; Yes! That&#039;s exactly what I was going to say. I should have realized then and there she had my vote, but it&#039;s taken my a long time to feel like I&#039;d made a firm position. I&#039;ve been waffling like Don Perata over here. 

And just like you said, if District 3 doesn&#039;t go to a run-off and At-large does, I&#039;ll be volunteering for Rebecca in the fall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Becks &#8211; </p>
<p>Rebecca has personally been very nice to me, and I&#8217;ve really enjoyed the opportunities I&#8217;ve had to talk to her. But it did disturb me that two separate people I know, neither of whom know one another and one of whom isn&#8217;t involved at politics at all, felt the need to tell almost the exact same story without any prompting. It seemed worth mentioning.</p>
<p>In the end, I agree with you, and all the points you hit on your blog about Sean. Kaplan can get things done. When I had coffee with her, I think that my favorite thing out of everything she said was when I was talking to her about some of my frustrations with inefficiencies in our government due to mandates in the City Charter. Almost the second I finished speaking, she spat out &#8220;Well then, the solution is to change the City Charter. We can do that!&#8221; Yes! That&#8217;s exactly what I was going to say. I should have realized then and there she had my vote, but it&#8217;s taken my a long time to feel like I&#8217;d made a firm position. I&#8217;ve been waffling like Don Perata over here. </p>
<p>And just like you said, if District 3 doesn&#8217;t go to a run-off and At-large does, I&#8217;ll be volunteering for Rebecca in the fall.</p>
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		<title>By: Becks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Becks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 22:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m actually not surprised at all that you&#039;re supporting Kaplan. I had the realization that you should and probably would endorse Rebecca when I realized that I supported Sean. Though these two candidates might at first seem to have little in common (look at who endorses each of them), I think they&#039;re both coming to the council from a similar place. They both care deeply about this city and have visions for making this city better but neither seem to be so deeply entrenched in idealogical views about issues that it would prevent them from listening to their constituents. Neither of them is afraid of change or of hard work. Both of them are thoughtful, creative, and incredibly intelligent. And though this is not the reason I support them, they&#039;re both young, which I think can be a great asset to our council. 

I&#039;m a bit surprised that people have complained to you that Rebecca&#039;s campaign has not been accessible. I see her personally campaigning just about everywhere, and I&#039;ve been impressed at how knowledgeable her volunteers are about her campaign. When I was phoning for her last week it was great to hear my fellow volunteers answering pretty detailed questions about what she was going to do for the city. Regardless, I think Rebecca will be incredibly accessible to her constituents - she comes to this position after being a community activist fro many years so she knows what it&#039;s like to be on the other side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m actually not surprised at all that you&#8217;re supporting Kaplan. I had the realization that you should and probably would endorse Rebecca when I realized that I supported Sean. Though these two candidates might at first seem to have little in common (look at who endorses each of them), I think they&#8217;re both coming to the council from a similar place. They both care deeply about this city and have visions for making this city better but neither seem to be so deeply entrenched in idealogical views about issues that it would prevent them from listening to their constituents. Neither of them is afraid of change or of hard work. Both of them are thoughtful, creative, and incredibly intelligent. And though this is not the reason I support them, they&#8217;re both young, which I think can be a great asset to our council. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a bit surprised that people have complained to you that Rebecca&#8217;s campaign has not been accessible. I see her personally campaigning just about everywhere, and I&#8217;ve been impressed at how knowledgeable her volunteers are about her campaign. When I was phoning for her last week it was great to hear my fellow volunteers answering pretty detailed questions about what she was going to do for the city. Regardless, I think Rebecca will be incredibly accessible to her constituents &#8211; she comes to this position after being a community activist fro many years so she knows what it&#8217;s like to be on the other side.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Allstadt</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/june-2008-endorsements/2008-06-02#comment-1958</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Allstadt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 21:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joshatron and Charlie,

It was pretty clear to me that the comments section was just a sloppy mistake.  But In this day and age, screwing up your website that badly is the same thing as putting out grammatically incorrect literature.  It&#039;s careless.

Josh, I know the other candidates have no comments sections.  Probably an unwise thing to do.  Although Q&amp;A would be a brave thing to do...   Still, Hamill offered the chance to comment, then recinded it as soon as it provoked disagreement.  It&#039;s one thing to not offer discussion.  It&#039;s far worse to offer it and then walk away when it turns out it&#039;s not the discussion you wanted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joshatron and Charlie,</p>
<p>It was pretty clear to me that the comments section was just a sloppy mistake.  But In this day and age, screwing up your website that badly is the same thing as putting out grammatically incorrect literature.  It&#8217;s careless.</p>
<p>Josh, I know the other candidates have no comments sections.  Probably an unwise thing to do.  Although Q&amp;A would be a brave thing to do&#8230;   Still, Hamill offered the chance to comment, then recinded it as soon as it provoked disagreement.  It&#8217;s one thing to not offer discussion.  It&#8217;s far worse to offer it and then walk away when it turns out it&#8217;s not the discussion you wanted.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Pine</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/june-2008-endorsements/2008-06-02#comment-1955</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Pine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;i didn’t notice where any other council candidates allow you to post comments on their sites… &quot;

Actually, I made that observation because in general Hamill has been a reluctant candidate (although she is quite happy to have $125,000+ spent on mailers for her), and the use of a blog template, with little of the elaboration that V has given hers, seemed to be another little sign of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;i didn’t notice where any other council candidates allow you to post comments on their sites… &#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, I made that observation because in general Hamill has been a reluctant candidate (although she is quite happy to have $125,000+ spent on mailers for her), and the use of a blog template, with little of the elaboration that V has given hers, seemed to be another little sign of that.</p>
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		<title>By: scottpark</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/june-2008-endorsements/2008-06-02#comment-1954</link>
		<dc:creator>scottpark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least we agree on Kaplan and Chan!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least we agree on Kaplan and Chan!</p>
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		<title>By: josh abrams</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/june-2008-endorsements/2008-06-02#comment-1953</link>
		<dc:creator>josh abrams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i didn&#039;t notice where any other council candidates allow you to post comments on their sites... everyone who is running is as bad as Uhuru!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i didn&#8217;t notice where any other council candidates allow you to post comments on their sites&#8230; everyone who is running is as bad as Uhuru!</p>
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		<title>By: Max Allstadt</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/june-2008-endorsements/2008-06-02#comment-1952</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Allstadt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles Pine -

The reason that Hamill&#039;s website removed comments is simple, and that reason is...

Me!

Hamill had posted a link to the endorsement article in the East Bay Express.  Early this morning, in the comment section, I posted links to the two Robert Gammon articles which called attention to her potential campaign finance violations.  If what you&#039;re saying is true, and she removed commenting, I claim full responsibility.  

See, the urls for those articles were so long that they ran out of the comment box.  You couldn&#039;t tell they were unfavorable without clicking on them.  Clearly, a supporter or two went to her site, clicked through, and got an unpleasant surprise!

Muhahahahahahahaha! 

PS, Uhuru did the same thing when I posted critical comments on their McCullough-hatefest video on youtube.  Deleted me and blocked me.

V Smoothe believes in democracy, and in the word of the people.  Hamill and Uhuru, not so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles Pine -</p>
<p>The reason that Hamill&#8217;s website removed comments is simple, and that reason is&#8230;</p>
<p>Me!</p>
<p>Hamill had posted a link to the endorsement article in the East Bay Express.  Early this morning, in the comment section, I posted links to the two Robert Gammon articles which called attention to her potential campaign finance violations.  If what you&#8217;re saying is true, and she removed commenting, I claim full responsibility.  </p>
<p>See, the urls for those articles were so long that they ran out of the comment box.  You couldn&#8217;t tell they were unfavorable without clicking on them.  Clearly, a supporter or two went to her site, clicked through, and got an unpleasant surprise!</p>
<p>Muhahahahahahahaha! </p>
<p>PS, Uhuru did the same thing when I posted critical comments on their McCullough-hatefest video on youtube.  Deleted me and blocked me.</p>
<p>V Smoothe believes in democracy, and in the word of the people.  Hamill and Uhuru, not so much.</p>
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