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		<title>By: fido</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/it-doesn%e2%80%99t-have-to-be-this-bad-really/2009-03-26#comment-105456</link>
		<dc:creator>fido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 20:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fill a city with black... any city anywhere... and you&#039;ll get what Oakland has. Truth hurts... and I&#039;m black.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fill a city with black&#8230; any city anywhere&#8230; and you&#8217;ll get what Oakland has. Truth hurts&#8230; and I&#8217;m black.</p>
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		<title>By: annoyed</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/it-doesn%e2%80%99t-have-to-be-this-bad-really/2009-03-26#comment-101682</link>
		<dc:creator>annoyed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I see Don Perata is going to ride in on his trusty steed and save us.   I can&#039;t wait for him to start rewarding his friends and punishing his enemies like he did in Sacramento.   A true leader for the 21st Century.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I see Don Perata is going to ride in on his trusty steed and save us.   I can&#8217;t wait for him to start rewarding his friends and punishing his enemies like he did in Sacramento.   A true leader for the 21st Century.</p>
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		<title>By: avis</title>
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		<dc:creator>avis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>V, thanks for a very interesting article.  It does seem like many Oaklanders deny the huge crime rates.  I do think a 2 party system in this city would be helpful.  I remember as a child asking my father why our home state always had one Democratic Senator and one Republican Senator.  He said it was so they could police each other because that much power could easily corrupt even an honest politician.  Hmmmm, maybe he had something there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>V, thanks for a very interesting article.  It does seem like many Oaklanders deny the huge crime rates.  I do think a 2 party system in this city would be helpful.  I remember as a child asking my father why our home state always had one Democratic Senator and one Republican Senator.  He said it was so they could police each other because that much power could easily corrupt even an honest politician.  Hmmmm, maybe he had something there.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re &quot;JB&quot; - just wondering. I&#039;m sure all the city council members or at least their staff read this blog. It&#039;s basically rtumble.com for Oakland.

Max- I don&#039;t think these people should receive full pension payouts if they are basically being fired. Same with AIG. People say  &quot;honor the contracts.&quot;

Well, AIG people made illegal contracts with Goldman Sachs and banks which they had no capital and therefore no intent to ever honor. This is called fraud.

Edgerly, a city employee has been shown to be guilty of at least one crime (why wasn&#039;t edgerly ever convicted for interfering with the police and obstructing justice?) - and Tucker failed in his duties to reduce crime and increase Oakland&#039;s quality of life. Epic fail on both counts.

of course, there are many reasons out of a police chief&#039;s control and perhaps pensions shouldn&#039;t be linked to performance here. 

but when he is shown to have purposefully destroyed dept morale and reduced crime-fighting and has nothing to show for it... and not listened to feedback - that is breakign the spirit of his employment contract. does anyone have a copy of his hiring papers?

Ken</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re &#8220;JB&#8221; &#8211; just wondering. I&#8217;m sure all the city council members or at least their staff read this blog. It&#8217;s basically rtumble.com for Oakland.</p>
<p>Max- I don&#8217;t think these people should receive full pension payouts if they are basically being fired. Same with AIG. People say  &#8220;honor the contracts.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, AIG people made illegal contracts with Goldman Sachs and banks which they had no capital and therefore no intent to ever honor. This is called fraud.</p>
<p>Edgerly, a city employee has been shown to be guilty of at least one crime (why wasn&#8217;t edgerly ever convicted for interfering with the police and obstructing justice?) &#8211; and Tucker failed in his duties to reduce crime and increase Oakland&#8217;s quality of life. Epic fail on both counts.</p>
<p>of course, there are many reasons out of a police chief&#8217;s control and perhaps pensions shouldn&#8217;t be linked to performance here. </p>
<p>but when he is shown to have purposefully destroyed dept morale and reduced crime-fighting and has nothing to show for it&#8230; and not listened to feedback &#8211; that is breakign the spirit of his employment contract. does anyone have a copy of his hiring papers?</p>
<p>Ken</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 06:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max-  Chief Tucker was on the 3%/50 CalPERS Public Safety Plan, which vests after five years.  He was previously on the Alameda County plan, which is different.  He will continue to receive his county retirement but he will not receive any retirement money from CalPERS because he was hired in Feb05.  His ignominious exit and consequent ineligibility hardly count as &quot;punishment&quot; but they are fitting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max-  Chief Tucker was on the 3%/50 CalPERS Public Safety Plan, which vests after five years.  He was previously on the Alameda County plan, which is different.  He will continue to receive his county retirement but he will not receive any retirement money from CalPERS because he was hired in Feb05.  His ignominious exit and consequent ineligibility hardly count as &#8220;punishment&#8221; but they are fitting.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Allstadt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Allstadt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 00:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, Tucker already has a contract for his retirement.  That is usually the case for public employees, particularly at a higher level.  It&#039;s well nigh impossible to take that money away, which makes me wonder why people demand that as a punishment so often.  (People said the same about Edgerly).  I think you practically have to get convicted and incarcerated to lose your public pension.

And JB?  No, that would not be Jane Brunner.  Not even close.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, Tucker already has a contract for his retirement.  That is usually the case for public employees, particularly at a higher level.  It&#8217;s well nigh impossible to take that money away, which makes me wonder why people demand that as a punishment so often.  (People said the same about Edgerly).  I think you practically have to get convicted and incarcerated to lose your public pension.</p>
<p>And JB?  No, that would not be Jane Brunner.  Not even close.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 00:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know who JB is (Councilwoman Jane Brunner?) but if former Police Chief Tucker screwed us over this bad, he should not be receiving our tax dollars to fund his expensive pension retirement!

Bad performance = low payout. 

Just as it should be with AIG&#039;s $100 billion of bailout money redirected to foreign banks and Goldman Sachs, not to mention a few puny executive bonuses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know who JB is (Councilwoman Jane Brunner?) but if former Police Chief Tucker screwed us over this bad, he should not be receiving our tax dollars to fund his expensive pension retirement!</p>
<p>Bad performance = low payout. </p>
<p>Just as it should be with AIG&#8217;s $100 billion of bailout money redirected to foreign banks and Goldman Sachs, not to mention a few puny executive bonuses.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 23:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back to the original point.  Sure a bunch of cops doesn&#039;t GUARANTEE a safer city, if you assume they&#039;re all going to be corrupt/incompetent, but if you think that the 1300 cops in Newark are pure, uncorrupted/uncorruptible souls, you need to set down the crack pipe.

If the &#039;Town could hire another 500 cops, I would bet a lot of money you&#039;d see crime drop to Newarkian levels real quick.  Think about how dense the cops would be between 66th and 109th avenues.  You could post 10 cops per avenue, for Pete&#039;s sake, and still have nearly 100 left over for the (geographically smaller) West Oakland streets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back to the original point.  Sure a bunch of cops doesn&#8217;t GUARANTEE a safer city, if you assume they&#8217;re all going to be corrupt/incompetent, but if you think that the 1300 cops in Newark are pure, uncorrupted/uncorruptible souls, you need to set down the crack pipe.</p>
<p>If the &#8216;Town could hire another 500 cops, I would bet a lot of money you&#8217;d see crime drop to Newarkian levels real quick.  Think about how dense the cops would be between 66th and 109th avenues.  You could post 10 cops per avenue, for Pete&#8217;s sake, and still have nearly 100 left over for the (geographically smaller) West Oakland streets.</p>
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		<title>By: MarleenLee</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarleenLee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI, JB, I&#039;ve just started looking into what&#039;s going on with the CPAB.  I just did a public records request to find out who&#039;s on it now and whether it has even been meeting for the last year, and if so, what has been discussed.  (According to recent documentation, it looks like the Council is set to approve a couple new members tomorrow).   Oakland is so dysfunctional that the head of Measure Y didn&#039;t even know the answer to these questions last week when I started asking what was up with the big meeting scheduled to discuss the status of &quot;community policing&quot; in Oakland.  How can you schedule a meeting on the topic when you don&#039;t even know who&#039;s in charge of the topic?   (The meeting was cancelled and has yet to be rescheduled).  

This is just yet another example of how City leaders spend hours, days, weeks, months and years talking about topics and putting together &quot;plans&quot; and then don&#039;t follow up to make sure the plan is being implemented.  In addition, they never try to  to find out whether it is working.  They are allowed to get away with this because most people stop paying attention after the crisis has been averted with a &quot;plan.&quot;  Only with scrutiny from the press and lawsuits do they ever wake up, and then, only just barely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI, JB, I&#8217;ve just started looking into what&#8217;s going on with the CPAB.  I just did a public records request to find out who&#8217;s on it now and whether it has even been meeting for the last year, and if so, what has been discussed.  (According to recent documentation, it looks like the Council is set to approve a couple new members tomorrow).   Oakland is so dysfunctional that the head of Measure Y didn&#8217;t even know the answer to these questions last week when I started asking what was up with the big meeting scheduled to discuss the status of &#8220;community policing&#8221; in Oakland.  How can you schedule a meeting on the topic when you don&#8217;t even know who&#8217;s in charge of the topic?   (The meeting was cancelled and has yet to be rescheduled).  </p>
<p>This is just yet another example of how City leaders spend hours, days, weeks, months and years talking about topics and putting together &#8220;plans&#8221; and then don&#8217;t follow up to make sure the plan is being implemented.  In addition, they never try to  to find out whether it is working.  They are allowed to get away with this because most people stop paying attention after the crisis has been averted with a &#8220;plan.&#8221;  Only with scrutiny from the press and lawsuits do they ever wake up, and then, only just barely.</p>
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		<title>By: annoyed</title>
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		<dc:creator>annoyed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JB:  To add to your list:

Under Jerry Brown, OPD was nearly gutted.  The lowest numbers of sworn personnel in recent memory occurred under the Brown administration.  

Beat Health, one of the few functioning units, was shut down.  The gang unit was disbanded.  The traffic division shrunk.   As was noted, the jail was closed.  

The implementation of Community Policing,  has been thwarted at every opportunity.  If budget cuts were needed, they were taken out of Community Policing.  

There are finally enough PSOs but it still isn&#039;t clear how much time they spend responding to calls for service instead of solving problems in their assigned beats.  And the unconsionable rotation of PSOs (without their consent or request) prevents real relationships from developing between the PSOs and the community.   

Last year, the Community Polcing Advisory Board CPAB was shut down after a failure by city staff and elected officials to enforce the requirements for terms of service.   The decision to shut down the Board came once a majority of the Board was not legally serving and the Board had no quorum and could not meet legally.  It was just coincidence that this happened at the same time the new geographic policing program was introduced and the $7M was taken from Measure Y for recruitment.  The police advisory board was unable to weigh in on any of it.   Did I mention how much the police brass hate the CPAB?   

The failures of leadership with the police department started with Jerry Brown and have continued under Dellums.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JB:  To add to your list:</p>
<p>Under Jerry Brown, OPD was nearly gutted.  The lowest numbers of sworn personnel in recent memory occurred under the Brown administration.  </p>
<p>Beat Health, one of the few functioning units, was shut down.  The gang unit was disbanded.  The traffic division shrunk.   As was noted, the jail was closed.  </p>
<p>The implementation of Community Policing,  has been thwarted at every opportunity.  If budget cuts were needed, they were taken out of Community Policing.  </p>
<p>There are finally enough PSOs but it still isn&#8217;t clear how much time they spend responding to calls for service instead of solving problems in their assigned beats.  And the unconsionable rotation of PSOs (without their consent or request) prevents real relationships from developing between the PSOs and the community.   </p>
<p>Last year, the Community Polcing Advisory Board CPAB was shut down after a failure by city staff and elected officials to enforce the requirements for terms of service.   The decision to shut down the Board came once a majority of the Board was not legally serving and the Board had no quorum and could not meet legally.  It was just coincidence that this happened at the same time the new geographic policing program was introduced and the $7M was taken from Measure Y for recruitment.  The police advisory board was unable to weigh in on any of it.   Did I mention how much the police brass hate the CPAB?   </p>
<p>The failures of leadership with the police department started with Jerry Brown and have continued under Dellums.</p>
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