<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Highlights from last night&#8217;s Council meeting</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.abetteroakland.com/highlights-from-last-nights-council-meeting/2008-11-19/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/highlights-from-last-nights-council-meeting/2008-11-19</link>
	<description>The Continuing Story of a City</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 21:06:35 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/highlights-from-last-nights-council-meeting/2008-11-19#comment-30636</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 05:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.abetteroakland.com/?p=1305#comment-30636</guid>
		<description>V.- I&#039;ve always loved the snippet of art that appeared on the blog banner...glad to know its history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>V.- I&#8217;ve always loved the snippet of art that appeared on the blog banner&#8230;glad to know its history.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Carlos Plazola</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/highlights-from-last-nights-council-meeting/2008-11-19#comment-30621</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlos Plazola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 03:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.abetteroakland.com/?p=1305#comment-30621</guid>
		<description>Max, let&#039;s grab coffee sometime soon. email is: cplazola at hotmail dot com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max, let&#8217;s grab coffee sometime soon. email is: cplazola at hotmail dot com</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Max Allstadt</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/highlights-from-last-nights-council-meeting/2008-11-19#comment-30531</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Allstadt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.abetteroakland.com/?p=1305#comment-30531</guid>
		<description>V-

yeah. That was cool.  With a little coordination, at least part of this sort of wall space could be used to create a city-wide theme.  There are other opportunities beyond this one type of wall too.  If we expect to be stuck with a stagnant building climate for a while, why not make the most of the hand it deals us?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>V-</p>
<p>yeah. That was cool.  With a little coordination, at least part of this sort of wall space could be used to create a city-wide theme.  There are other opportunities beyond this one type of wall too.  If we expect to be stuck with a stagnant building climate for a while, why not make the most of the hand it deals us?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: V Smoothe</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/highlights-from-last-nights-council-meeting/2008-11-19#comment-30499</link>
		<dc:creator>V Smoothe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.abetteroakland.com/?p=1305#comment-30499</guid>
		<description>Sort of like Forest City had part of the wall surrounding the new Uptown park, while it was under construction, painted by the kids from the Oakland School for the Arts? 

&lt;center&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.abetteroakland.com/images/osaart3.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;/center&gt;
&lt;center&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.abetteroakland.com/images/osaart1.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;/center&gt;
&lt;center&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.abetteroakland.com/images/osaart2.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;/center&gt;

I loved that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sort of like Forest City had part of the wall surrounding the new Uptown park, while it was under construction, painted by the kids from the Oakland School for the Arts? </p>
<p><center><img src="http://www.abetteroakland.com/images/osaart3.jpg"/></center><br />
<center><img src="http://www.abetteroakland.com/images/osaart1.jpg"/></center><br />
<center><img src="http://www.abetteroakland.com/images/osaart2.jpg"/></center></p>
<p>I loved that.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Max Allstadt</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/highlights-from-last-nights-council-meeting/2008-11-19#comment-30497</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Allstadt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.abetteroakland.com/?p=1305#comment-30497</guid>
		<description>Carlos, I have no issues with the fee being in compliance with the way CEDA is supposed to work.

The flowers I was talking about aren&#039;t real flowers.   I mean the ones that were on signs put next to IDLF campaign signs in fruitvale.  The idea is that if OBA could coordinate a voluntary arts program of some sort on vacant lot fences, we could do something really cool, and cheap.

Imagine if OBA or the city put together something where the plywood fences bounding construction projects were made available to a coherent art campaign.  Something as simple as painting these fences with images of famous Oaklanders, or historical facts in artistically enhanced fonts, or fanciful maps of the surrounding area.  Take the impact and turn it into local character.  Create a graffiti deterrent.  Add &quot;brought to you by OBA&quot;.  Win win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carlos, I have no issues with the fee being in compliance with the way CEDA is supposed to work.</p>
<p>The flowers I was talking about aren&#8217;t real flowers.   I mean the ones that were on signs put next to IDLF campaign signs in fruitvale.  The idea is that if OBA could coordinate a voluntary arts program of some sort on vacant lot fences, we could do something really cool, and cheap.</p>
<p>Imagine if OBA or the city put together something where the plywood fences bounding construction projects were made available to a coherent art campaign.  Something as simple as painting these fences with images of famous Oaklanders, or historical facts in artistically enhanced fonts, or fanciful maps of the surrounding area.  Take the impact and turn it into local character.  Create a graffiti deterrent.  Add &#8220;brought to you by OBA&#8221;.  Win win.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Carlos Plazola</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/highlights-from-last-nights-council-meeting/2008-11-19#comment-30488</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlos Plazola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.abetteroakland.com/?p=1305#comment-30488</guid>
		<description>Max, Yes, the $337 is set because of the requirement of limiting fees to the cost of services, which is probably a good notion to prevent the abuse of power by bureaucracies. 

Relative to the larger issue of buying flowers for empty lots, which I&#039;ll extrapolate to mean the developers and builders providing additional benefits to the community, it&#039;s certainly a conversation worth having within the context of a balanced governing body that is also willing to look at the benefits that come from the act of construction and development itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max, Yes, the $337 is set because of the requirement of limiting fees to the cost of services, which is probably a good notion to prevent the abuse of power by bureaucracies. </p>
<p>Relative to the larger issue of buying flowers for empty lots, which I&#8217;ll extrapolate to mean the developers and builders providing additional benefits to the community, it&#8217;s certainly a conversation worth having within the context of a balanced governing body that is also willing to look at the benefits that come from the act of construction and development itself.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Kent</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/highlights-from-last-nights-council-meeting/2008-11-19#comment-30485</link>
		<dc:creator>Kent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.abetteroakland.com/?p=1305#comment-30485</guid>
		<description>I did not see Tuesday&#039;s council meeting but am not surprised to hear about the infighting on the council, especially involving Desley Brooks.  I respect her but often wish she could just lose the chip on her shoulder.  Her attitude towards fellow city officials stinks.  I lose respect when I see elected officials behaving that way.

Beyond that, though, it sounds to me like the problems go deeper than the individual personalities on the council.  They are clearly not working as a team and don&#039;t trust eachother.  The Mayor should be doing a better job of keeping the council members on the same page.  Management books will tell you that a certain amount of conflict among a peer group is a good way to get differences of opinion out in the open.  But our council is more than just disagreeing here.  They are distrustful of eachother and, while that&#039;s not new in politics, it&#039;s very hard to get anything done when relationships are fractured like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did not see Tuesday&#8217;s council meeting but am not surprised to hear about the infighting on the council, especially involving Desley Brooks.  I respect her but often wish she could just lose the chip on her shoulder.  Her attitude towards fellow city officials stinks.  I lose respect when I see elected officials behaving that way.</p>
<p>Beyond that, though, it sounds to me like the problems go deeper than the individual personalities on the council.  They are clearly not working as a team and don&#8217;t trust eachother.  The Mayor should be doing a better job of keeping the council members on the same page.  Management books will tell you that a certain amount of conflict among a peer group is a good way to get differences of opinion out in the open.  But our council is more than just disagreeing here.  They are distrustful of eachother and, while that&#8217;s not new in politics, it&#8217;s very hard to get anything done when relationships are fractured like that.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Max Allstadt</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/highlights-from-last-nights-council-meeting/2008-11-19#comment-30421</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Allstadt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.abetteroakland.com/?p=1305#comment-30421</guid>
		<description>Carlos,

The fee limit is because CEDA can&#039;t recoup more than administrative costs with the fees, right?  

If developers are wiling to pay more, perhaps they&#039;d be willing to consider taking a little spare cash (and I know there&#039;s not a lot of it) and using it to beautify sites waiting for development.  There are all sorts of cool and low cost ways to pretty up a vacant lot or a fence, and I&#039;ll bet that a loose partnership with the arts community could make some of them happen.  If OBA had a unified approach for site beautification, it would create opportunities for inexpensive city-wide art projects, which would in turn create a positive city-wide identity builder for Oakland and OBA.

You think those sets of cut-out flowers tied to chainlink fences are cute?  Wait till you see what we can cook up to out do them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carlos,</p>
<p>The fee limit is because CEDA can&#8217;t recoup more than administrative costs with the fees, right?  </p>
<p>If developers are wiling to pay more, perhaps they&#8217;d be willing to consider taking a little spare cash (and I know there&#8217;s not a lot of it) and using it to beautify sites waiting for development.  There are all sorts of cool and low cost ways to pretty up a vacant lot or a fence, and I&#8217;ll bet that a loose partnership with the arts community could make some of them happen.  If OBA had a unified approach for site beautification, it would create opportunities for inexpensive city-wide art projects, which would in turn create a positive city-wide identity builder for Oakland and OBA.</p>
<p>You think those sets of cut-out flowers tied to chainlink fences are cute?  Wait till you see what we can cook up to out do them.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Carlos Plazola</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/highlights-from-last-nights-council-meeting/2008-11-19#comment-30414</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlos Plazola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.abetteroakland.com/?p=1305#comment-30414</guid>
		<description>John, we were not opposed to the fees, and would have been willing to pay more but we could only pay up to the $337.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, we were not opposed to the fees, and would have been willing to pay more but we could only pay up to the $337.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: V Smoothe</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/highlights-from-last-nights-council-meeting/2008-11-19#comment-30242</link>
		<dc:creator>V Smoothe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 07:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.abetteroakland.com/?p=1305#comment-30242</guid>
		<description>Minor correction, John. The extension Chang proposed was not three years, it was until 2012. So for some people, that would be a three year extension. For others, it would be a one year extension, and so on, depending on when your existing entitlement expires. The idea was that rather than give a blanket number of years, just postpone everything until a time when we think the market will have recovered. Quan&#039;s substitute proposal, which passed, gave until 2011. So again, it&#039;s a date, not a number of years. The actual time of the extension will vary for every project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Minor correction, John. The extension Chang proposed was not three years, it was until 2012. So for some people, that would be a three year extension. For others, it would be a one year extension, and so on, depending on when your existing entitlement expires. The idea was that rather than give a blanket number of years, just postpone everything until a time when we think the market will have recovered. Quan&#8217;s substitute proposal, which passed, gave until 2011. So again, it&#8217;s a date, not a number of years. The actual time of the extension will vary for every project.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

