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	<title>Comments on: Finally, a clear answer on Fresh &amp; Easy</title>
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		<title>By: Ralph</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/finally-a-clear-answer-on-fresh-easy/2008-04-28#comment-1300</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 02:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i like how you cal this an answer on F&amp;E - Nancy doesn&#039;t give you answer, she tells you what she can sell.  i trust her like i trust a used car salesman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i like how you cal this an answer on F&amp;E &#8211; Nancy doesn&#8217;t give you answer, she tells you what she can sell.  i trust her like i trust a used car salesman.</p>
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		<title>By: Joanna/OnTheGoJo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joanna/OnTheGoJo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 00:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dto - what I never understood about all the hoopla about Trader Joe&#039;s is that there is already a market in that area.  Why not put it somewhere else that needs a market?  And I can see being upset about union jobs IF there are public funds involved.  Were there public funds?  That&#039;s what I kept asking about F&amp;E stores.  Was there some other (tax?) incentive?

Also, I&#039;ve always heard that the real issue with TJ&#039;s was parking and traffic concerns.  But ask Commissioner Boxer if he takes the bus or rides his bike to work.  He&#039;s against adding sufficient parking in buildings, but won&#039;t leave behind his own car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dto &#8211; what I never understood about all the hoopla about Trader Joe&#8217;s is that there is already a market in that area.  Why not put it somewhere else that needs a market?  And I can see being upset about union jobs IF there are public funds involved.  Were there public funds?  That&#8217;s what I kept asking about F&amp;E stores.  Was there some other (tax?) incentive?</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;ve always heard that the real issue with TJ&#8217;s was parking and traffic concerns.  But ask Commissioner Boxer if he takes the bus or rides his bike to work.  He&#8217;s against adding sufficient parking in buildings, but won&#8217;t leave behind his own car.</p>
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		<title>By: dto510</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/finally-a-clear-answer-on-fresh-easy/2008-04-28#comment-1298</link>
		<dc:creator>dto510</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 21:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I cited labor lawyer Doug Boxer (who endorsed Nadel), and CNA honcho Michael Lighty, who used their authority as Planning Commissioners to delay (they sought to block) liquor licenses for the new Trader Joe&#039;ses because they weren&#039;t union. I believe that Pat Kernighan had to organize constituents to speak in favor of the stores in front of the full PC.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4176/is_20070920/ai_n20507227&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;In late 2007, the city sold EBALDC fifty low-income apartments in Chinatown to preserve as affordable for $4m&lt;/a&gt;. EBALDC turned them into &quot;moderate-income&quot; condos. Public comment from Chinatown was overwhelming opposed to the plan, but the Council decided to do what was in EBALDC&#039;s interest, not what was in the interest of the other condo-owners in the building and the low-income Chinese community.

East Bay Housing Organizations tirelessly promote Inclusionary Zoning as a solution to &quot;gentrification,&quot; helping low-income residents who are somehow &quot;pushed-out&quot; by market-rate development. However, nobody proposes using IZ funds for low-income rentals, instead acknowledging that the law would create middle-income condos, already provided by the market, at what are essentially market prices. If they do discuss this, they say it&#039;s a route to homeownership. But the &quot;inclusionary&quot; condos must be sold back to the non-profit who manages them at a price that non-profit dictates, so the only party who gets the financial benefits of homeownership is the non-profit.

EBASE is currently promoting a plan to force the truckers to become eligible for union representation, under the aegis of environmental protection (the Coalition for Clean and Safe Ports). In fact, the plan has nothing to do with the environment (their claim that organized truckers would be better able to afford truck upgrades is specious, and EBASE says that Port should pay for upgrades anyway), and could jeopardize the Port&#039;s planned transition from trucks to rail by creating a new constituency for truckers.

These are only recent examples of the selfishness of the &quot;left&quot; nonprofits, who spout socialist rhetoric while single-mindedly pursuing their own interest. To protect union grocery jobs in North Oakland, EBALDC with Nancy Nadel&#039;s encouragement deprived West Oaklanders of their best chance to get a full-service private grocery that didn&#039;t need public subsidy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I cited labor lawyer Doug Boxer (who endorsed Nadel), and CNA honcho Michael Lighty, who used their authority as Planning Commissioners to delay (they sought to block) liquor licenses for the new Trader Joe&#8217;ses because they weren&#8217;t union. I believe that Pat Kernighan had to organize constituents to speak in favor of the stores in front of the full PC.</p>
<p><a href="http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4176/is_20070920/ai_n20507227" rel="nofollow">In late 2007, the city sold EBALDC fifty low-income apartments in Chinatown to preserve as affordable for $4m</a>. EBALDC turned them into &#8220;moderate-income&#8221; condos. Public comment from Chinatown was overwhelming opposed to the plan, but the Council decided to do what was in EBALDC&#8217;s interest, not what was in the interest of the other condo-owners in the building and the low-income Chinese community.</p>
<p>East Bay Housing Organizations tirelessly promote Inclusionary Zoning as a solution to &#8220;gentrification,&#8221; helping low-income residents who are somehow &#8220;pushed-out&#8221; by market-rate development. However, nobody proposes using IZ funds for low-income rentals, instead acknowledging that the law would create middle-income condos, already provided by the market, at what are essentially market prices. If they do discuss this, they say it&#8217;s a route to homeownership. But the &#8220;inclusionary&#8221; condos must be sold back to the non-profit who manages them at a price that non-profit dictates, so the only party who gets the financial benefits of homeownership is the non-profit.</p>
<p>EBASE is currently promoting a plan to force the truckers to become eligible for union representation, under the aegis of environmental protection (the Coalition for Clean and Safe Ports). In fact, the plan has nothing to do with the environment (their claim that organized truckers would be better able to afford truck upgrades is specious, and EBASE says that Port should pay for upgrades anyway), and could jeopardize the Port&#8217;s planned transition from trucks to rail by creating a new constituency for truckers.</p>
<p>These are only recent examples of the selfishness of the &#8220;left&#8221; nonprofits, who spout socialist rhetoric while single-mindedly pursuing their own interest. To protect union grocery jobs in North Oakland, EBALDC with Nancy Nadel&#8217;s encouragement deprived West Oaklanders of their best chance to get a full-service private grocery that didn&#8217;t need public subsidy.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Allstadt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Allstadt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 20:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dto, that is some pretty heavy stuff you&#039;re laying down.  fairly blanket stuff.  I don&#039;t doubt that there&#039;s some meat behind it, but I also know that there are a number of issues on the socialism vs. libertarianism continuum where we disagree.  

I&#039;d really like to see you blog on this in more detail.  

I certainly am beginning to notice that business isn&#039;t being made to feel welcome in Oakland.  But I&#039;d also like to see if there are any cases where our city&#039;s socialist leanings have done us some good.  Please elaborate when you can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dto, that is some pretty heavy stuff you&#8217;re laying down.  fairly blanket stuff.  I don&#8217;t doubt that there&#8217;s some meat behind it, but I also know that there are a number of issues on the socialism vs. libertarianism continuum where we disagree.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d really like to see you blog on this in more detail.  </p>
<p>I certainly am beginning to notice that business isn&#8217;t being made to feel welcome in Oakland.  But I&#8217;d also like to see if there are any cases where our city&#8217;s socialist leanings have done us some good.  Please elaborate when you can.</p>
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		<title>By: dto510</title>
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		<dc:creator>dto510</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 19:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max - the &quot;left&quot; in Oakland is remarkably united when it comes to putting politics before people. EBADLC has shares the ideology of Nancy Nadel, labor-funded pressure groups like the ironically named East Bay Alliance for a Sustainable Economy, and their fellow &quot;non-profit&quot; developers who make a living holding developers ransom for &quot;community benefits&quot; and then abandon the community once they get their check. All that matters is symbolism and union dues, who cares that folks in West O have nowhere to go to buy healthy food? Remember, Doug Boxer tried to block Trader Joe&#039;s over the same issue. For so many of Oakland&#039;s politicians, pressure groups come first and people come last if at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max &#8211; the &#8220;left&#8221; in Oakland is remarkably united when it comes to putting politics before people. EBADLC has shares the ideology of Nancy Nadel, labor-funded pressure groups like the ironically named East Bay Alliance for a Sustainable Economy, and their fellow &#8220;non-profit&#8221; developers who make a living holding developers ransom for &#8220;community benefits&#8221; and then abandon the community once they get their check. All that matters is symbolism and union dues, who cares that folks in West O have nowhere to go to buy healthy food? Remember, Doug Boxer tried to block Trader Joe&#8217;s over the same issue. For so many of Oakland&#8217;s politicians, pressure groups come first and people come last if at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Allstadt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Allstadt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 19:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>V, do you think EBALDC demanded that wage commitment on their own, or that somebody might have been pressuring them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>V, do you think EBALDC demanded that wage commitment on their own, or that somebody might have been pressuring them?</p>
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		<title>By: V Smoothe</title>
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		<dc:creator>V Smoothe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mark - 

Fresh &amp; Easy is taking a pause from opening US stores, but when they do begin opening their Northern California stores, the reason West Oakland will not get one is because EBALDC wanted them to commit to a certain wage as a condition of their lease, and they wouldn&#039;t. Fresh &amp; Easy has announced one store in Oakland, at 73rd and Bancroft.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mark &#8211; </p>
<p>Fresh &#038; Easy is taking a pause from opening US stores, but when they do begin opening their Northern California stores, the reason West Oakland will not get one is because EBALDC wanted them to commit to a certain wage as a condition of their lease, and they wouldn&#8217;t. Fresh &#038; Easy has announced one store in Oakland, at 73rd and Bancroft.</p>
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		<title>By: james palm</title>
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		<dc:creator>james palm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No suprises here, Ms Nadel is simply following in the footsteps of other City Council in the pocket of Big Labor, the grocery &quot;mafia&quot; of the UFCW Local 5.  This is about protecting &quot;market share&quot; for a select few Big Bosses and some spineless politicians dependent on Big Money, including the Silent Mayor.  Go Union Neutral, like Whole Foods and Trader Joes!  No food for YOU!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No suprises here, Ms Nadel is simply following in the footsteps of other City Council in the pocket of Big Labor, the grocery &#8220;mafia&#8221; of the UFCW Local 5.  This is about protecting &#8220;market share&#8221; for a select few Big Bosses and some spineless politicians dependent on Big Money, including the Silent Mayor.  Go Union Neutral, like Whole Foods and Trader Joes!  No food for YOU!</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fresh and Easy did not come to Oakland because they are are failing as a concept, not because of wages.  However, the only reason they looked at Oakland is because they don&#039;t know any better as a new business in this area.   Most established companies wont consider Oakland because of the hostile business climate.  Between crime, unions, plastic bags and an ineffective city government, it is not worth risking your business to come here.  No one wants to go through what Farmer Joe&#039;s went through. 

Our company left Oakland years ago because of crime, and the lack of follow through with the police department.  Our business is now in San Leandro with our 300 jobs.  

We would love to come back to Oakland, if only the police would respond/follow up on calls. 

The city council has to stop dealing with plastic bags</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fresh and Easy did not come to Oakland because they are are failing as a concept, not because of wages.  However, the only reason they looked at Oakland is because they don&#8217;t know any better as a new business in this area.   Most established companies wont consider Oakland because of the hostile business climate.  Between crime, unions, plastic bags and an ineffective city government, it is not worth risking your business to come here.  No one wants to go through what Farmer Joe&#8217;s went through. </p>
<p>Our company left Oakland years ago because of crime, and the lack of follow through with the police department.  Our business is now in San Leandro with our 300 jobs.  </p>
<p>We would love to come back to Oakland, if only the police would respond/follow up on calls. </p>
<p>The city council has to stop dealing with plastic bags</p>
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		<title>By: Hayden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hayden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 04:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In 2003, the City Council (and Port) allowed Wal-Mart to come to Hegenberger with only a token &quot;no groceries&quot; vote.  While there are plenty of reasons to dislike big boxes, and low wages even in the absence of a big box, how is it that car-centric Wal-Mart, with its retrograde labor, manufacturing, and other policies, gets built at the end of the day, but a likely better-paying store in a walkable part of West Oakland does not?  Perhaps the living wage requirement was instituted on Wal-Mart, and I missed it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 2003, the City Council (and Port) allowed Wal-Mart to come to Hegenberger with only a token &#8220;no groceries&#8221; vote.  While there are plenty of reasons to dislike big boxes, and low wages even in the absence of a big box, how is it that car-centric Wal-Mart, with its retrograde labor, manufacturing, and other policies, gets built at the end of the day, but a likely better-paying store in a walkable part of West Oakland does not?  Perhaps the living wage requirement was instituted on Wal-Mart, and I missed it?</p>
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