Comments on: Enough with the recall Dellums talk! http://www.abetteroakland.com/enough-with-the-recall-dellums-talk/2008-05-13 The Continuing Story of a City Fri, 10 Sep 2010 01:02:50 +0000 hourly 1 By: len raphael http://www.abetteroakland.com/enough-with-the-recall-dellums-talk/2008-05-13/comment-page-1#comment-263457 len raphael Sat, 10 Jul 2010 03:09:14 +0000 http://www.abetteroakland.com/enough-with-the-recall-dellums-talk/2008-05-13#comment-263457 Check out the expression on JQ's face as the cops advance on her and RK. Pure bliss. Must be reliving fond memories of the Third World protest movement at Berkeley in the 60's. RK, our other mayoral contender at the protests is more interesting. She's too young to have participated in the the 60's movement, but she's doing her best to make believe she's in the Selma to Montgomery march. I can understand distrust of OPD by people of color, but what i don’t understand is why the majority of our own city council doesn’t trust the police chief they selected to properly command and control their own police force. Or did they think they were protecting our police from violent protesters? if they believe Chief Batts is incapable of controlling his own officers then they should ask him to resign. if they believe Batts does not have sufficient cops to protect our city, then they should tell that to voters and should have asked for Federal and State reinforcements. -len raphael Check out the expression on JQ’s face as the cops advance on her and RK. Pure bliss. Must be reliving fond memories of the Third World protest movement at Berkeley in the 60′s.

RK, our other mayoral contender at the protests is more interesting. She’s too young to have participated in the the 60′s movement, but she’s doing her best to make believe she’s in the Selma to Montgomery march.

I can understand distrust of OPD by people of color, but what i don’t understand is why the majority of our own city council doesn’t trust the police chief they selected to properly command and control their own police force.

Or did they think they were protecting our police from violent protesters?

if they believe Chief Batts is incapable of controlling his own officers then they should ask him to resign.

if they believe Batts does not have sufficient cops to protect our city, then they should tell that to voters and should have asked for Federal and State reinforcements.

-len raphael

]]> By: Robert Wiles http://www.abetteroakland.com/enough-with-the-recall-dellums-talk/2008-05-13/comment-page-1#comment-263450 Robert Wiles Sat, 10 Jul 2010 02:54:07 +0000 http://www.abetteroakland.com/enough-with-the-recall-dellums-talk/2008-05-13#comment-263450 Well, we're past the point of a recall. Now we have a "choice" selection of candidates. Well, we’re past the point of a recall. Now we have a “choice” selection of candidates.

]]> By: Sleepless http://www.abetteroakland.com/enough-with-the-recall-dellums-talk/2008-05-13/comment-page-1#comment-3706 Sleepless Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:24:57 +0000 http://www.abetteroakland.com/enough-with-the-recall-dellums-talk/2008-05-13#comment-3706 pretty funny that the last comment here praises deborah edgerly! that was back in may i spose. recall ron dellums! http://www.petitiononline.com/510911/petition.html yes, perata is awful. could he be worse than dellums? doubtful. and guess what? BOB BOBB IS BACK. maybe he'll run!! pretty funny that the last comment here praises deborah edgerly! that was back in may i spose.

recall ron dellums! http://www.petitiononline.com/510911/petition.html

yes, perata is awful. could he be worse than dellums? doubtful. and guess what? BOB BOBB IS BACK. maybe he’ll run!!

]]> By: Allan http://www.abetteroakland.com/enough-with-the-recall-dellums-talk/2008-05-13/comment-page-1#comment-1566 Allan Thu, 15 May 2008 20:44:29 +0000 http://www.abetteroakland.com/enough-with-the-recall-dellums-talk/2008-05-13#comment-1566 Oakland doesn't have a city manager, we have a city administrator. While I have a lot of respect for the incumbent, she is in a no-win situation. A city manager is a profesional, non-political (ideally) manager. This person should have had previous success at several cities. The manager has been exposed to a variety of ideas - not just the Oakland way of doing things. The manager's career path is based upon accomplishment, not just fitting into local politics. With the current system, there is not much chance of focusing on improving the city's operations. As for accountability - how is it working for you with the strong mayor? At least a manager can be fired. Oakland doesn’t have a city manager, we have a city administrator. While I have a lot of respect for the incumbent, she is in a no-win situation.

A city manager is a profesional, non-political (ideally) manager. This person should have had previous success at several cities. The manager has been exposed to a variety of ideas – not just the Oakland way of doing things. The manager’s career path is based upon accomplishment, not just fitting into local politics. With the current system, there is not much chance of focusing on improving the city’s operations.

As for accountability – how is it working for you with the strong mayor? At least a manager can be fired.

]]> By: ConcernedOakFF http://www.abetteroakland.com/enough-with-the-recall-dellums-talk/2008-05-13/comment-page-1#comment-1545 ConcernedOakFF Wed, 14 May 2008 19:30:19 +0000 http://www.abetteroakland.com/enough-with-the-recall-dellums-talk/2008-05-13#comment-1545 A Strong City Manager Government? Are you kidding? After Bob Bobb and Miss Corrupt Edgerly, can you honestly say that would be a good idea? Good lord, who would they hire next? A Strong City Manager Government? Are you kidding? After Bob Bobb and Miss Corrupt Edgerly, can you honestly say that would be a good idea? Good lord, who would they hire next?

]]> By: Jason Gohlke http://www.abetteroakland.com/enough-with-the-recall-dellums-talk/2008-05-13/comment-page-1#comment-1544 Jason Gohlke Wed, 14 May 2008 19:28:09 +0000 http://www.abetteroakland.com/enough-with-the-recall-dellums-talk/2008-05-13#comment-1544 I agree -- a recall would be a waste of time and money that would be better spent advocating for real change. Glad to find out this blog exists and is generating lots of discussion. Keep it up! I agree — a recall would be a waste of time and money that would be better spent advocating for real change.

Glad to find out this blog exists and is generating lots of discussion. Keep it up!

]]> By: Ken O. http://www.abetteroakland.com/enough-with-the-recall-dellums-talk/2008-05-13/comment-page-1#comment-1532 Ken O. Wed, 14 May 2008 07:20:36 +0000 http://www.abetteroakland.com/enough-with-the-recall-dellums-talk/2008-05-13#comment-1532 I was thinking "what is Dellums doing" a while back and toyed with the recall idea, but see now that the alternative (Pirate) is worse. I have someone in mind for the Mayoral position, and he isn't Perata. Down with the machines! Machines do not serve us, the commoners. K. I was thinking “what is Dellums doing” a while back and toyed with the recall idea, but see now that the alternative (Pirate) is worse.

I have someone in mind for the Mayoral position, and he isn’t Perata. Down with the machines! Machines do not serve us, the commoners.

K.

]]> By: Max Allstadt http://www.abetteroakland.com/enough-with-the-recall-dellums-talk/2008-05-13/comment-page-1#comment-1529 Max Allstadt Wed, 14 May 2008 02:25:54 +0000 http://www.abetteroakland.com/enough-with-the-recall-dellums-talk/2008-05-13#comment-1529 V: When I'm home I do. No cable here. But if people as uptight as the Brits can let it all hang out like that, seriously, why can't we? I've had a problem with authority since I was 5, V. Of course I sit around watching C-span. It's almost kinky, no? All that control... Anyway, for reals: Rebecca, I think you could handle a hot-seat style debate like this. Question-Response-Short Rebuttal. Real simple. And you should promise to do it because you're capable of it. I'm going to ask other canditates to do it to. V:

When I’m home I do. No cable here. But if people as uptight as the Brits can let it all hang out like that, seriously, why can’t we?

I’ve had a problem with authority since I was 5, V. Of course I sit around watching C-span. It’s almost kinky, no? All that control…

Anyway, for reals:

Rebecca, I think you could handle a hot-seat style debate like this. Question-Response-Short Rebuttal. Real simple. And you should promise to do it because you’re capable of it. I’m going to ask other canditates to do it to.

]]> By: Max Allstadt http://www.abetteroakland.com/enough-with-the-recall-dellums-talk/2008-05-13/comment-page-1#comment-1528 Max Allstadt Wed, 14 May 2008 02:05:07 +0000 http://www.abetteroakland.com/enough-with-the-recall-dellums-talk/2008-05-13#comment-1528 Oh, yeah, and it should happen in Council Chambers. On a Saturday. And I should be allowed to bring snacks for everybody. Oh, yeah, and it should happen in Council Chambers. On a Saturday. And I should be allowed to bring snacks for everybody.

]]> By: V Smoothe http://www.abetteroakland.com/enough-with-the-recall-dellums-talk/2008-05-13/comment-page-1#comment-1527 V Smoothe Wed, 14 May 2008 02:04:49 +0000 http://www.abetteroakland.com/enough-with-the-recall-dellums-talk/2008-05-13#comment-1527 You watch the Prime Minster's Question Time broadcast, Max? And I thought I was a nerd! You watch the Prime Minster’s Question Time broadcast, Max? And I thought I was a nerd!

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