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		<title>By: VivekB</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/crime-stats-check-in-june-edition/2009-06-09#comment-218377</link>
		<dc:creator>VivekB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those of you who&#039;ve looked at these graphs &amp; tables but don&#039;t know what to make of them - i&#039;ll be walking through them at next Thursday&#039;s  (6/26) 12Y/13X NCPC meeting, 7pm @the RR library on college. i&#039;m also doing a weekly view so we can see the latest, and I might play with doing a color coded, map-based view of the various beats if I can get it to work.
 
Note hedera&#039;s comment on the other post about no food, though. Well, some coffee &amp; teabags, maybe, but it&#039;s BYO other than that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those of you who&#8217;ve looked at these graphs &amp; tables but don&#8217;t know what to make of them &#8211; i&#8217;ll be walking through them at next Thursday&#8217;s  (6/26) 12Y/13X NCPC meeting, 7pm @the RR library on college. i&#8217;m also doing a weekly view so we can see the latest, and I might play with doing a color coded, map-based view of the various beats if I can get it to work.</p>
<p>Note hedera&#8217;s comment on the other post about no food, though. Well, some coffee &amp; teabags, maybe, but it&#8217;s BYO other than that.</p>
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		<title>By: VivekB</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/crime-stats-check-in-june-edition/2009-06-09#comment-214768</link>
		<dc:creator>VivekB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>einnocent, yes, in theory you&#039;re right.  However the overall # in Oakland has barely changed over the past 10 years. I think it was on this site that someone posted actual #s.  We&#039;re at population saturation, certainly in the Area 1 beats shown above. Well, unless there are massive low-density teardowns replaced with new high density construction, which hasn&#039;t really happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>einnocent, yes, in theory you&#8217;re right.  However the overall # in Oakland has barely changed over the past 10 years. I think it was on this site that someone posted actual #s.  We&#8217;re at population saturation, certainly in the Area 1 beats shown above. Well, unless there are massive low-density teardowns replaced with new high density construction, which hasn&#8217;t really happened.</p>
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		<title>By: einnocent</title>
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		<dc:creator>einnocent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@VivekB Interesting analysis, though again I raise the objection that the rate (crimes/person) is more important than the raw number of crimes. In other words, those numbers are mixed up with any population fluctuations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@VivekB Interesting analysis, though again I raise the objection that the rate (crimes/person) is more important than the raw number of crimes. In other words, those numbers are mixed up with any population fluctuations.</p>
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		<title>By: V Smoothe</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/crime-stats-check-in-june-edition/2009-06-09#comment-214670</link>
		<dc:creator>V Smoothe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The comment got caught in the spam filter. I&#039;ve approved it now. Sometimes this happens. So for everyone - if you try to comment and it won&#039;t show up, the spam filter is marking it as a false positive. Do not try to submit the same comment like six more times, it won&#039;t help, it will just convince the computer even more that you are spam. E-mail me and I&#039;ll fix it as soon as I get a chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comment got caught in the spam filter. I&#8217;ve approved it now. Sometimes this happens. So for everyone &#8211; if you try to comment and it won&#8217;t show up, the spam filter is marking it as a false positive. Do not try to submit the same comment like six more times, it won&#8217;t help, it will just convince the computer even more that you are spam. E-mail me and I&#8217;ll fix it as soon as I get a chance.</p>
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		<title>By: VivekB</title>
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		<dc:creator>VivekB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>test, i just attempted to post a comment with the results of my analysis comparing 2009 to 2008 , but it didn&#039;t seem to &#039;take&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>test, i just attempted to post a comment with the results of my analysis comparing 2009 to 2008 , but it didn&#8217;t seem to &#8216;take&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: VivekB</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/crime-stats-check-in-june-edition/2009-06-09#comment-214640</link>
		<dc:creator>VivekB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, who&#039;s ready for the truth, as created by an independent authority? 

I&#039;ll attempt to embed links, but i&#039;m not too savvy with that. In case I screw up, here&#039;s the direct path. http://www.rockridgeresidents.org/images/stories/crime/090615/090615_vpad.jpg

http://www.rockridgeresidents.org/images/stories/crime/090615/VPAD_Areas.JPG


You&#039;ll see this for a variety of beats &amp; all areas, so you can see whether crime is really down, or just being moved around. The nice thing about using a single graph with all areas is that you can detect that visually, plus see crime trends over time.

You&#039;ll see a graph &amp; two tables, both tracking &#039;incidents against persons (aka violent), property, &amp; major drug offenses (ie, sales not possesion)&quot;. I have tables &amp; graphs for breakouts for just violent, just property, but that&#039;s overload for putting into a &#039;comment&#039;.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, who&#8217;s ready for the truth, as created by an independent authority? </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll attempt to embed links, but i&#8217;m not too savvy with that. In case I screw up, here&#8217;s the direct path. <a href="http://www.rockridgeresidents.org/images/stories/crime/090615/090615_vpad.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.rockridgeresidents.org/images/stories/crime/090615/090615_vpad.jpg</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.rockridgeresidents.org/images/stories/crime/090615/VPAD_Areas.JPG" rel="nofollow">http://www.rockridgeresidents.org/images/stories/crime/090615/VPAD_Areas.JPG</a></p>
<p>You&#8217;ll see this for a variety of beats &amp; all areas, so you can see whether crime is really down, or just being moved around. The nice thing about using a single graph with all areas is that you can detect that visually, plus see crime trends over time.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll see a graph &amp; two tables, both tracking &#8216;incidents against persons (aka violent), property, &amp; major drug offenses (ie, sales not possesion)&#8221;. I have tables &amp; graphs for breakouts for just violent, just property, but that&#8217;s overload for putting into a &#8216;comment&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There needs to be some kind of leader that can really push for these kinds of changes. This type of thing happened a lot in the 60&#039;s. MLK, Malcom X, Ghandi...people that really pushed for a change in the way people think and behave. It won&#039;t be easy as most people have already been frustrated and given up hope so there&#039;s a lot of inertia that needs to be overcome, but there needs to be a strong leadership that has to say &quot;Enough Is Enough!&quot; and wake people up to really get involved, get energized and take some action.

From your kids, don&#039;t tolerate any grade less than a B. I don&#039;t care if you have to encourage them, reward them, yell at them or beat them, learning to learn is what going to raise your social status.

But to pay for such an education, parents have to save since education isn&#039;t cheap and like Ken said, neither is getting your own business and such. I don&#039;t care what you need to do, but save save save and accumulate wealth. Be stingy and don&#039;t live beyond your means. Always make every last penny count. Find the best deals (chinatown has some of the lowest prices for groceries and other things cause chinese people are cheap by nature) and over time, you&#039;ll have enough in your bank account to buy the things you&#039;ve been waiting and saving for,

Think of the long term, but to do that, you&#039;re going to have to sacrifice in the short term. There is hope. There&#039;s definitely hope, but you&#039;ve got to try, and over time, you&#039;ll see results.

As for public policy, like Ken said, people need to step out of the sidelines and get involved and take some action. Every little bit helps, no matter how small.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There needs to be some kind of leader that can really push for these kinds of changes. This type of thing happened a lot in the 60&#8242;s. MLK, Malcom X, Ghandi&#8230;people that really pushed for a change in the way people think and behave. It won&#8217;t be easy as most people have already been frustrated and given up hope so there&#8217;s a lot of inertia that needs to be overcome, but there needs to be a strong leadership that has to say &#8220;Enough Is Enough!&#8221; and wake people up to really get involved, get energized and take some action.</p>
<p>From your kids, don&#8217;t tolerate any grade less than a B. I don&#8217;t care if you have to encourage them, reward them, yell at them or beat them, learning to learn is what going to raise your social status.</p>
<p>But to pay for such an education, parents have to save since education isn&#8217;t cheap and like Ken said, neither is getting your own business and such. I don&#8217;t care what you need to do, but save save save and accumulate wealth. Be stingy and don&#8217;t live beyond your means. Always make every last penny count. Find the best deals (chinatown has some of the lowest prices for groceries and other things cause chinese people are cheap by nature) and over time, you&#8217;ll have enough in your bank account to buy the things you&#8217;ve been waiting and saving for,</p>
<p>Think of the long term, but to do that, you&#8217;re going to have to sacrifice in the short term. There is hope. There&#8217;s definitely hope, but you&#8217;ve got to try, and over time, you&#8217;ll see results.</p>
<p>As for public policy, like Ken said, people need to step out of the sidelines and get involved and take some action. Every little bit helps, no matter how small.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question is, how do you break the cycle for a whole community. Maybe there&#039;s no way.

So get rid of public housing. (or otherwise, provide it for everyone.) That&#039;ll light a fire under some butts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question is, how do you break the cycle for a whole community. Maybe there&#8217;s no way.</p>
<p>So get rid of public housing. (or otherwise, provide it for everyone.) That&#8217;ll light a fire under some butts.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree with you Tony.

Education.

There is something to be said though for working hard at ANYTHING. Work hard, really hard, and you can build up a hotdog stand biz, barbershop, or anything and then jump into real estate. (the real money)

Koreans understand this. Ethiopians understand it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with you Tony.</p>
<p>Education.</p>
<p>There is something to be said though for working hard at ANYTHING. Work hard, really hard, and you can build up a hotdog stand biz, barbershop, or anything and then jump into real estate. (the real money)</p>
<p>Koreans understand this. Ethiopians understand it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/crime-stats-check-in-june-edition/2009-06-09#comment-202309</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 19:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>During all my years observing behaviors of different people from different backgrounds, I&#039;d have to say that one of the main problems that plague Oakland&#039;s poor is a lack of emphasis on education. Among asians, it&#039;s not a problem since those cultures tend sacrifice tremendously to get their children good education. They know that only through education, there&#039;s a hope for the future.

With the other minority groups, the emphasis on education is the exact opposite. There is none. And if any of them tries, then they&#039;re labeled as &quot;uncle tom&quot; or &quot;acting white&quot;. Sheer stupidity. Stop trying to be the next Kobe Bryant or P Diddy and hit those fucking books. There&#039;s a much better chance of working hard to become a doctor or engineer than being the next Michael Jordan.

And one more thing. Black people have to control their own kids so that they stop attacking and robbing helpless asian immigrants who can&#039;t even speak english. It&#039;s insane that 3 young black men would think it&#039;s ok to hit an 88 year old chinese man in the face and then take fuckin&#039; $10 from his wallet. And for what? Just so that he can have some spending money when he goes to the liquor store.

Is this racist? Maybe, but I&#039;m speaking from personal experience. I don&#039;t see any young asian men doing the same thing.

You blacks need to get a better grip on your future. You parents need to beat the shit out of your kids who even think about committing crime or dropping out of school is OK. And force your kids to A&#039;s in school and make college an expectation, not an option. You really want to get Oakland out of the hole? Sacrifice, save and scrimp and force your kids to get an education because education is the only thing that&#039;s going to get them more money and be more productive. And when that happens on a bigger scale in Oakland, and more money is generated in Oakland, which means more taxes and such, then Oakland will thrive.

But it&#039;s going to take sacrifice, hard work, and a committment to education and saving. The asian immigrants are doing it because it&#039;s part of their culture. Do the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During all my years observing behaviors of different people from different backgrounds, I&#8217;d have to say that one of the main problems that plague Oakland&#8217;s poor is a lack of emphasis on education. Among asians, it&#8217;s not a problem since those cultures tend sacrifice tremendously to get their children good education. They know that only through education, there&#8217;s a hope for the future.</p>
<p>With the other minority groups, the emphasis on education is the exact opposite. There is none. And if any of them tries, then they&#8217;re labeled as &#8220;uncle tom&#8221; or &#8220;acting white&#8221;. Sheer stupidity. Stop trying to be the next Kobe Bryant or P Diddy and hit those fucking books. There&#8217;s a much better chance of working hard to become a doctor or engineer than being the next Michael Jordan.</p>
<p>And one more thing. Black people have to control their own kids so that they stop attacking and robbing helpless asian immigrants who can&#8217;t even speak english. It&#8217;s insane that 3 young black men would think it&#8217;s ok to hit an 88 year old chinese man in the face and then take fuckin&#8217; $10 from his wallet. And for what? Just so that he can have some spending money when he goes to the liquor store.</p>
<p>Is this racist? Maybe, but I&#8217;m speaking from personal experience. I don&#8217;t see any young asian men doing the same thing.</p>
<p>You blacks need to get a better grip on your future. You parents need to beat the shit out of your kids who even think about committing crime or dropping out of school is OK. And force your kids to A&#8217;s in school and make college an expectation, not an option. You really want to get Oakland out of the hole? Sacrifice, save and scrimp and force your kids to get an education because education is the only thing that&#8217;s going to get them more money and be more productive. And when that happens on a bigger scale in Oakland, and more money is generated in Oakland, which means more taxes and such, then Oakland will thrive.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s going to take sacrifice, hard work, and a committment to education and saving. The asian immigrants are doing it because it&#8217;s part of their culture. Do the same.</p>
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