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	<title>Comments on: Catching up on the Central Estuary Specifc Plan</title>
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		<title>By: Livegreen</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/catching-up-on-the-central-estuary-specifc-plan/2009-12-07#comment-243727</link>
		<dc:creator>Livegreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 21:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is confusing because above Carlos said: &quot;Owens/Illinois: Again, as far as I know, the discussions have focused around letting them stay as long as they want, but being prepared with a plan in case they want to leave.&quot;

I have to read through the various options again, but Carlos seems to say the plan is for them to stay. Also since IDLF has supported the Redevelopment of this ares from the beginning, some variation to it does not mean he&#039;s trying to change the whole thing... 

This includes businesses that are job producing and active.  Will they b pushed out? If so how will those jobs b replaced? You can&#039;t just fire people and kill business with the hope of recruiting new potential ones which, as we&#039;ve discussed, the City does nit do a good job at.  

A bird in hand, or a business or a job, is worth two in the bush.  In a down Job and Real Estate market especially...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is confusing because above Carlos said: &#8220;Owens/Illinois: Again, as far as I know, the discussions have focused around letting them stay as long as they want, but being prepared with a plan in case they want to leave.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have to read through the various options again, but Carlos seems to say the plan is for them to stay. Also since IDLF has supported the Redevelopment of this ares from the beginning, some variation to it does not mean he&#8217;s trying to change the whole thing&#8230; </p>
<p>This includes businesses that are job producing and active.  Will they b pushed out? If so how will those jobs b replaced? You can&#8217;t just fire people and kill business with the hope of recruiting new potential ones which, as we&#8217;ve discussed, the City does nit do a good job at.  </p>
<p>A bird in hand, or a business or a job, is worth two in the bush.  In a down Job and Real Estate market especially&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jingletown resident</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/catching-up-on-the-central-estuary-specifc-plan/2009-12-07#comment-243726</link>
		<dc:creator>Jingletown resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 17:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It may interest to you to inquire why De La Fuente is quietly pressuring the city&#039;s planning department to change the preferred plan selected by the community so that the Owens Brockway site doesn&#039;t change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may interest to you to inquire why De La Fuente is quietly pressuring the city&#8217;s planning department to change the preferred plan selected by the community so that the Owens Brockway site doesn&#8217;t change.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/catching-up-on-the-central-estuary-specifc-plan/2009-12-07#comment-243316</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS. if Safeway were smart, they&#039;d upgrade the quality of &#039;food&#039; they try to sell there--the produce and meat are generally of disturbingly low quality and priced higher than competition.  I don&#039;t think unions are responsible for that, as Food Maxx is unionized and sells higher quality produce, especially (the meat is usually higher quality, but not always).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS. if Safeway were smart, they&#8217;d upgrade the quality of &#8216;food&#8217; they try to sell there&#8211;the produce and meat are generally of disturbingly low quality and priced higher than competition.  I don&#8217;t think unions are responsible for that, as Food Maxx is unionized and sells higher quality produce, especially (the meat is usually higher quality, but not always).</p>
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		<title>By: Jenn</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/catching-up-on-the-central-estuary-specifc-plan/2009-12-07#comment-243314</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The green grocer is in the mall with La Calaca Loca and Bare Naked Burgers.  It&#039;s across the parking lot from them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The green grocer is in the mall with La Calaca Loca and Bare Naked Burgers.  It&#8217;s across the parking lot from them.</p>
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		<title>By: len raphael</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/catching-up-on-the-central-estuary-specifc-plan/2009-12-07#comment-243313</link>
		<dc:creator>len raphael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ralph, the new temescal greengrocer is in the mini strip mall, on west side of Tele, just north of 51st Street. ie. just across small street from the library.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ralph, the new temescal greengrocer is in the mini strip mall, on west side of Tele, just north of 51st Street. ie. just across small street from the library.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/catching-up-on-the-central-estuary-specifc-plan/2009-12-07#comment-243312</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 05:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as we start with public sector unions, Ralph, yes, please.  Private sector unions are so small (8% of private labor force) as to not matter anymore.  However, with the public sector gobbling up 30%+ of the economy, the public unions matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as we start with public sector unions, Ralph, yes, please.  Private sector unions are so small (8% of private labor force) as to not matter anymore.  However, with the public sector gobbling up 30%+ of the economy, the public unions matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/catching-up-on-the-central-estuary-specifc-plan/2009-12-07#comment-243307</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 02:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as long as you are digressing, where is this green grocer in temescal? and can we just do away with unions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as long as you are digressing, where is this green grocer in temescal? and can we just do away with unions?</p>
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		<title>By: livegreen</title>
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		<dc:creator>livegreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but then it has to compete with Berkeley Bowl, which isn&#039;t all that far away. Now that&#039;s hard for Farmer Joe&#039;s to do, and they&#039;re far away.

The &quot;locally owned&quot; has to be on higher end products.  Many union members are apparently boycotting Farmer Joe&#039;s still.  If they want organic and/or pesticide free, instead they go shop at Trader Joe&#039;s and Whole Foods.  Who&#039;s kidding who?  (Liberal hypocrisy?)

If Safeway were smart they&#039;d capitalize on the labor-natural foods nexus, and do an add campaign backing it up vs. non-union shops like Trader Joe&#039;s, Wal-Mart, etc.  But we seem to be digressing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but then it has to compete with Berkeley Bowl, which isn&#8217;t all that far away. Now that&#8217;s hard for Farmer Joe&#8217;s to do, and they&#8217;re far away.</p>
<p>The &#8220;locally owned&#8221; has to be on higher end products.  Many union members are apparently boycotting Farmer Joe&#8217;s still.  If they want organic and/or pesticide free, instead they go shop at Trader Joe&#8217;s and Whole Foods.  Who&#8217;s kidding who?  (Liberal hypocrisy?)</p>
<p>If Safeway were smart they&#8217;d capitalize on the labor-natural foods nexus, and do an add campaign backing it up vs. non-union shops like Trader Joe&#8217;s, Wal-Mart, etc.  But we seem to be digressing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: len raphael</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/catching-up-on-the-central-estuary-specifc-plan/2009-12-07#comment-243304</link>
		<dc:creator>len raphael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>then you get the middle and upper class residents who want small locally owned retail stores with the selection of big box stores, the prices of the internet, and the quality of a farmer&#039;s market. and don&#039;t forget complete medical, dental, and retirement benefits plus decent wages.

eg. after years of people complaining there was no green grocer in temescal, one opens up just across from the library but it&#039;s on life support.  It won&#039;t last 6 mos unless it gets hecka more customers.

the quality is higher than safeway but below farmers markets; prices maybe 5% lower than safeway. excellent ped and bike access, decent car access. 

-len raphael
temescal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>then you get the middle and upper class residents who want small locally owned retail stores with the selection of big box stores, the prices of the internet, and the quality of a farmer&#8217;s market. and don&#8217;t forget complete medical, dental, and retirement benefits plus decent wages.</p>
<p>eg. after years of people complaining there was no green grocer in temescal, one opens up just across from the library but it&#8217;s on life support.  It won&#8217;t last 6 mos unless it gets hecka more customers.</p>
<p>the quality is higher than safeway but below farmers markets; prices maybe 5% lower than safeway. excellent ped and bike access, decent car access. </p>
<p>-len raphael<br />
temescal</p>
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		<title>By: Jenn</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/catching-up-on-the-central-estuary-specifc-plan/2009-12-07#comment-243302</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Len - Pak-n-Save is Safeway, so you do have union jobs right next to that Emeryville location, for what it&#039;s worth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Len &#8211; Pak-n-Save is Safeway, so you do have union jobs right next to that Emeryville location, for what it&#8217;s worth.</p>
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