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		<title>By: Mike Spencer</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/a-little-love-for-local-bloggers/2008-12-10/comment-page-1#comment-40173</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 06:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>V, Chuck Nevius apparently never read ABO either.  His remark comes off as arrogant, from a guy who knows he is on a sinking ship. Your site, Oakbook, even The Express, fill a much needed void.  The Trib just doesn&#039;t have the staff to cover its own City as it should--ditto for the Chronicle.  The future of journalism is a good blogger, another much needed piece of the puzzle, debate, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>V, Chuck Nevius apparently never read ABO either.  His remark comes off as arrogant, from a guy who knows he is on a sinking ship. Your site, Oakbook, even The Express, fill a much needed void.  The Trib just doesn&#8217;t have the staff to cover its own City as it should&#8211;ditto for the Chronicle.  The future of journalism is a good blogger, another much needed piece of the puzzle, debate, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Coolhand Luke</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/a-little-love-for-local-bloggers/2008-12-10/comment-page-1#comment-38532</link>
		<dc:creator>Coolhand Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much V! I&#039;m honored for the shout out! I know that the Bay Area music and spoken word aspect of my blog caters more to a 20s demographic, but I&#039;m glad you enjoy my commentary on broader Oakland issues. I hope that I can contribute a younger voice to the blogoaksphere and build with those of you who are reporting on other interesting niches.  

Also, pick up the latest OakBook with my homegirl Ruby of iLL-Literacy on the cover www.iLL-Literacy.com

I love Oakland, and I appreciate all of you pushing localism in an age of streamlined press release reporting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much V! I&#8217;m honored for the shout out! I know that the Bay Area music and spoken word aspect of my blog caters more to a 20s demographic, but I&#8217;m glad you enjoy my commentary on broader Oakland issues. I hope that I can contribute a younger voice to the blogoaksphere and build with those of you who are reporting on other interesting niches.  </p>
<p>Also, pick up the latest OakBook with my homegirl Ruby of iLL-Literacy on the cover <a href="http://www.iLL-Literacy.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.iLL-Literacy.com</a></p>
<p>I love Oakland, and I appreciate all of you pushing localism in an age of streamlined press release reporting.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/a-little-love-for-local-bloggers/2008-12-10/comment-page-1#comment-37423</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 05:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Knowledge is power.  When I read news about our city (or about most anything for that matter) in mainstream media, I often feel powerless,  and disengaged, because there is no information and no active participation.  This blog, however, is the proverbial Aladdin&#039;s Cave of factual and researched information and involvement.  Every time I log on, I feel invigorated, regardless of whether what I&#039;ve read is hope inspiring or depressing.  And, the links to other blogs provide insight into what other inspired minds are thinking.  

I lived in a suburb of Chicago during my high school years.  I woke up early every morning to read both the Trib and the Sun-Times.  Front page and Op-Ed were mandatory, the rest had to wait until after school.   It was sad to read that the Tribune Corp. recently declared bankruptcy.  But, today&#039;s newspapers, for the most part, don&#039;t offer anything of substance.  You do, V.  And I am grateful to be allowed to be a part of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Knowledge is power.  When I read news about our city (or about most anything for that matter) in mainstream media, I often feel powerless,  and disengaged, because there is no information and no active participation.  This blog, however, is the proverbial Aladdin&#8217;s Cave of factual and researched information and involvement.  Every time I log on, I feel invigorated, regardless of whether what I&#8217;ve read is hope inspiring or depressing.  And, the links to other blogs provide insight into what other inspired minds are thinking.  </p>
<p>I lived in a suburb of Chicago during my high school years.  I woke up early every morning to read both the Trib and the Sun-Times.  Front page and Op-Ed were mandatory, the rest had to wait until after school.   It was sad to read that the Tribune Corp. recently declared bankruptcy.  But, today&#8217;s newspapers, for the most part, don&#8217;t offer anything of substance.  You do, V.  And I am grateful to be allowed to be a part of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Quercki M. Singer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quercki M. Singer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 02:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! Oakland blogs I hadn&#039;t found yet. Thanks!
The Splashpad News is another not-quite-a-blog that I like. It&#039;s news about the Grand Lake and the Farmer&#039;s Market and related items. I signed up to get it by e-mail.
http://www.splashpad.org/newsletter.html

I think he would blog but he doesn&#039;t have time to learn how.

I want to thank each of the bloggers who help keep me informed and connected. Those of us who care will be the ones to make &quot;A Better Oakland.&quot;

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! Oakland blogs I hadn&#8217;t found yet. Thanks!<br />
The Splashpad News is another not-quite-a-blog that I like. It&#8217;s news about the Grand Lake and the Farmer&#8217;s Market and related items. I signed up to get it by e-mail.<br />
<a href="http://www.splashpad.org/newsletter.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.splashpad.org/newsletter.html</a></p>
<p>I think he would blog but he doesn&#8217;t have time to learn how.</p>
<p>I want to thank each of the bloggers who help keep me informed and connected. Those of us who care will be the ones to make &#8220;A Better Oakland.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: John Oldham</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/a-little-love-for-local-bloggers/2008-12-10/comment-page-1#comment-37225</link>
		<dc:creator>John Oldham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Article. Newspapers have begun using blogs as source material and as a catalyst for story ideas. Media as a whole has begun using MySpace and Facebook as official sources as background on a person. The blogging community will fill more and more of the information space as Traditional media continues to deal with declining ad revenue, shrinking staffs and consolidation.

If you get a chance take a look at my Alameda Real Estate blog.
http://94501realestate.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Article. Newspapers have begun using blogs as source material and as a catalyst for story ideas. Media as a whole has begun using MySpace and Facebook as official sources as background on a person. The blogging community will fill more and more of the information space as Traditional media continues to deal with declining ad revenue, shrinking staffs and consolidation.</p>
<p>If you get a chance take a look at my Alameda Real Estate blog.<br />
<a href="http://94501realestate.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://94501realestate.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Joanna/ShopGirl</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/a-little-love-for-local-bloggers/2008-12-10/comment-page-1#comment-37199</link>
		<dc:creator>Joanna/ShopGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>V - thanks for the post and the mention for JLN.  Ironically, I&#039;ve been giving serious thought to returning Jack London News to the print world.  I remember when I first had JLN online and wanted to go to print, but my partner thought no one would read it.  I had been reading articles even 2-3 years ago about how local news would probably survive in print, but not the big papers.

I was still pretty shocked with the excitement JLN seemed to create, even if I felt people had select reading comprehension skills.  People even started asking for it.  But after two years of just doing it monthly, I was totally burned out going to every single meeting and trying to keep up with the calendar, etc.  Then, when advertisers started not paying, that was pretty crappy and I decided to give it a rest.  It&#039;s not like it ever made any money or paid me for my time or Simon&#039;s time.  

One person called it &quot;pretty good for an amateur&quot; and decided to do his own through JLDA after I stopped printing JLN in December 2007.

Now that the JLDA Call is also coming to an end after a realization of just how much work it really takes to put together a monthly publication and hearding cats, er, I mean advertisers.  I keep thinking that I should do JLN again... but Simon reminds me of the complaints; the constant coming in to my business, not to spend money, but to whinge about the neighborhood; the constant effort to get advertisers and decent ads (resolution!); and the financial loss.  He would rather I get a real job and do newsletters for someone else.

When I first started there was a group called the Oakland Newsletter Network, and we even tried using a Yahoo Group to keep in touch.  But it wasn&#039;t very successful.  It&#039;s hard to get together for meetings (and I was working 6 days a week back then) although we were all frustrated with the lack of LOCAL news in the Tribune.  Shiela D&#039;Amico &amp; Toni Locke from the MacArthur Metro, Don Kinkead at the Rockridge News, and Jim Ratliff were BIG HUGE advisors to me, and their help was SO appreciated.  They rock.  There was another woman that did a paper - I wish I could remember her name because she was also a huge help.  It was seeing something so simple as a front/back paper with info that made me realize that I didn&#039;t need to make it as fancy as the Rockridge News or the MacArthur Metro and print on newsprint.  Of course, I, being me, had to get more complex each and ultimately I was doing an 8-page color paper.  I had current news, history (often antique postcards), and the calendar.  Maybe a recipe pertinent to what was going on at the farmers&#039; market and articles on the local non-profits - who are always looking for publicity and donations.

In any case, I would love to do it again, but I can&#039;t afford to not get paid any more!  Wish I could.  I have all sorts of ideas, but just not the resources.  Unfortunately, getting advertisers in this economy is all the harder.

Bloggers are fab, and I still do it on occasion... maybe I&#039;ll just go back to doing that more.

Cheers,
Joanna</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>V &#8211; thanks for the post and the mention for JLN.  Ironically, I&#8217;ve been giving serious thought to returning Jack London News to the print world.  I remember when I first had JLN online and wanted to go to print, but my partner thought no one would read it.  I had been reading articles even 2-3 years ago about how local news would probably survive in print, but not the big papers.</p>
<p>I was still pretty shocked with the excitement JLN seemed to create, even if I felt people had select reading comprehension skills.  People even started asking for it.  But after two years of just doing it monthly, I was totally burned out going to every single meeting and trying to keep up with the calendar, etc.  Then, when advertisers started not paying, that was pretty crappy and I decided to give it a rest.  It&#8217;s not like it ever made any money or paid me for my time or Simon&#8217;s time.  </p>
<p>One person called it &#8220;pretty good for an amateur&#8221; and decided to do his own through JLDA after I stopped printing JLN in December 2007.</p>
<p>Now that the JLDA Call is also coming to an end after a realization of just how much work it really takes to put together a monthly publication and hearding cats, er, I mean advertisers.  I keep thinking that I should do JLN again&#8230; but Simon reminds me of the complaints; the constant coming in to my business, not to spend money, but to whinge about the neighborhood; the constant effort to get advertisers and decent ads (resolution!); and the financial loss.  He would rather I get a real job and do newsletters for someone else.</p>
<p>When I first started there was a group called the Oakland Newsletter Network, and we even tried using a Yahoo Group to keep in touch.  But it wasn&#8217;t very successful.  It&#8217;s hard to get together for meetings (and I was working 6 days a week back then) although we were all frustrated with the lack of LOCAL news in the Tribune.  Shiela D&#8217;Amico &amp; Toni Locke from the MacArthur Metro, Don Kinkead at the Rockridge News, and Jim Ratliff were BIG HUGE advisors to me, and their help was SO appreciated.  They rock.  There was another woman that did a paper &#8211; I wish I could remember her name because she was also a huge help.  It was seeing something so simple as a front/back paper with info that made me realize that I didn&#8217;t need to make it as fancy as the Rockridge News or the MacArthur Metro and print on newsprint.  Of course, I, being me, had to get more complex each and ultimately I was doing an 8-page color paper.  I had current news, history (often antique postcards), and the calendar.  Maybe a recipe pertinent to what was going on at the farmers&#8217; market and articles on the local non-profits &#8211; who are always looking for publicity and donations.</p>
<p>In any case, I would love to do it again, but I can&#8217;t afford to not get paid any more!  Wish I could.  I have all sorts of ideas, but just not the resources.  Unfortunately, getting advertisers in this economy is all the harder.</p>
<p>Bloggers are fab, and I still do it on occasion&#8230; maybe I&#8217;ll just go back to doing that more.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Joanna</p>
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		<title>By: Becks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Becks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks V! And thanks to all of the excellent bloggers who make the blogoaksphere so diverse and comprehensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks V! And thanks to all of the excellent bloggers who make the blogoaksphere so diverse and comprehensive.</p>
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		<title>By: new to oakland</title>
		<link>http://www.abetteroakland.com/a-little-love-for-local-bloggers/2008-12-10/comment-page-1#comment-37166</link>
		<dc:creator>new to oakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks V.  I moved to Oakland 6 months ago and have followed you since.  You do a fantastic job and one that could never really be matched by traditional media-- a huge service and public good.   I think your work, and others in the blogosphere, will eventually be viewed as the seeds of real change in Oakland.  (I&#039;m an optimist, still.)  

Thank you again and keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks V.  I moved to Oakland 6 months ago and have followed you since.  You do a fantastic job and one that could never really be matched by traditional media&#8211; a huge service and public good.   I think your work, and others in the blogosphere, will eventually be viewed as the seeds of real change in Oakland.  (I&#8217;m an optimist, still.)  </p>
<p>Thank you again and keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So many blogs, so little time.

I used to check out SFGate all the time - however, lately, blogs seem to be the place to go.  They seem to address the things that are of interest to me.

I always check out your blog, and have been pointing others this way.  Your links to other blogs are great.

Thanks for this list.  I don&#039;t know how you have time to go through all of these blogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So many blogs, so little time.</p>
<p>I used to check out SFGate all the time &#8211; however, lately, blogs seem to be the place to go.  They seem to address the things that are of interest to me.</p>
<p>I always check out your blog, and have been pointing others this way.  Your links to other blogs are great.</p>
<p>Thanks for this list.  I don&#8217;t know how you have time to go through all of these blogs.</p>
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		<title>By: Debby Richman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debby Richman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for assembling us virtually - and now we really should all meet in person.  Maybe this weekend at some coffee shop?  It&#039;s supposed to rain anyway, so what else does anyone have to do?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for assembling us virtually &#8211; and now we really should all meet in person.  Maybe this weekend at some coffee shop?  It&#8217;s supposed to rain anyway, so what else does anyone have to do?!</p>
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